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View Poll Results: Where?
New York City 16 3.10%
Greater Boston 32 6.20%
Philly 38 7.36%
DC/N. Virginia 50 9.69%
Raleigh/NC Research Triangle 32 6.20%
Austin 48 9.30%
San Francisco/Bay Area/Silicon Valley 13 2.52%
Baltimore 11 2.13%
Toronto 33 6.40%
Pittsburgh 35 6.78%
Chicago 99 19.19%
Atlanta 109 21.12%
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Old 10-05-2017, 06:07 PM
 
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Metro Denver will push lifestyle, workforce over incentives

This makes me feel better about the cities pitch.

At the same time, this pretty much rules out Denver for getting picked. Amazon clearly wants handouts.
I disagree. I don't think this rules out Denver at all but will be interesting to see

 
Old 10-05-2017, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania USA
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I bet Chicago or Boston are the most likely to be home to HQ2. Chicago for its massive scale, role as a transport/distribution hub, and for its airport. Boston for its massive size and also access to its seemingly unrivaled college/university talent pool for recruiting. Both cities have prime locations. Boston also has strong ties to Europe, which could be a big market for Amazon.

A lot of cities are getting creative and competitive so it could also be a toss up.
 
Old 10-05-2017, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Tampa - St. Louis
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I disagree. I don't think this rules out Denver at all but will be interesting to see
Maybe there is a recognition that this would push Denver's cost of living through the stratosphere.
 
Old 10-05-2017, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Washington State desert
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I don't agree with this, but thought it was an interesting viewpoint and worth some discussion...

(and what with recent developments of Amazon continuing to soak up office space in Seattle, this deserves atleast a look)...

https://www.vox.com/new-money/2017/9...on-hq2-seattle
 
Old 10-05-2017, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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Austin actually built a brand new airport that opened in 1999. It was specifically built to allow for future growth.

Austin Bergstrom International Airport is on a hot streak - Business Insider
Yep. Bergstrom. Still embarrassingly small.
 
Old 10-05-2017, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Aurora, CO
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Yep. Bergstrom. Still embarrassingly small.
Bergstrom could quadruple their passenger volume and they'd still move fewer passengers than DIA.
 
Old 10-05-2017, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Washington State desert
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My point is Austin made a decision to relocate their airport in the late 90's. The result is a nice terminal, but the bigger point is they can expand. Austin is not anywhere close to being a "hub", and really is just a feeder to DFW and IAH, so any comparisons to those, (or DIA) isn't a fair fight. However, what all this means to Amazon's decision is unknown, but my instinct is it doesn't mean much.
 
Old 10-06-2017, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Miami-Jax
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I disagree. I don't think this rules out Denver at all but will be interesting to see
Yeah they are pretty vague about it...if there are zero incentives then Denver really has no chance, but they don't have to give up the farm to be in the running.
 
Old 10-06-2017, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Mt. Airy
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Bezos is laughing at us all. He's got a tack on Dallas, Texas and everywhere else is crossed out with thick, red marker. He considers all of us fools and he takes pride in wasting our time.
 
Old 10-06-2017, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Yeah they are pretty vague about it...if there are zero incentives then Denver really has no chance, but they don't have to give up the farm to be in the running.
Some one else made a comment about how Denver's past offering was typically, "you want an intensive, look west". And I think it's pretty true. Denver has been one of the fastest growing cities, so they have been doing something right.

People point to the high cost of doing business in the north east, but incentives will negate those extra costs. They will also save MILLIONS in relocation costs (something people keep forgetting about) by being able to utilize the millions of educated workers who already live in the area, and surrounding metros. Sure they don't NEED to be located on the other coast, but if they are too close to Seattle, they run the risk of being stuck with a dried up labor pool. If you think about it, the people who would want to live in Seattle would probably also want to live in Denver...leaving all of those other highly educated tech people who don't want to leave their home cities out.

Relocation costs range from $10K-$25K. So after factoring in their awful turn over rate, lets say they spend $15,000 per employee (total of 50,000). $15,000 X 50,000 = $750,000,000. That is a pretty hefty chunk of change to factor into the cost of doing business...and that is on the low end.

For this reason alone, I would say this could rule out cities like Denver, Austin, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, and Detroit...even though they only requested "more than 1 million". Personally, these are the things that people should think about for a city's eligibility. Amazon already knows what cities have transit and airports, they don't need anyone to tell them that. They probably have business analysts already crunching the numbers, doing math that no one on city data will be able to match, to determine what city will offer them the best talent.
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