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New York City 16 3.10%
Greater Boston 32 6.20%
Philly 38 7.36%
DC/N. Virginia 50 9.69%
Raleigh/NC Research Triangle 32 6.20%
Austin 48 9.30%
San Francisco/Bay Area/Silicon Valley 13 2.52%
Baltimore 11 2.13%
Toronto 33 6.40%
Pittsburgh 35 6.78%
Chicago 99 19.19%
Atlanta 109 21.12%
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Old 10-20-2017, 06:35 AM
 
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Well Philly pitched three sites it would appear (Wasn't the RFP saying to pitch just one)
No, it says best sites, plural.

 
Old 10-20-2017, 07:37 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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https://assets.documentcloud.org/doc...2-Proposal.pdf

The Boston bid if anyone is interested.

When the joint Somerville-Cambridge-Boston bid is uploaded online I will post that as well.

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Old 10-20-2017, 08:38 AM
 
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Chicago announced this week the partnership of the University of Illinois flagship campus in Champaign partnering with Northwestern University, the University of Chicago and the University of Illinois-Chicago to build a $1.2 billion dollar mutual innovation, research and technology center on part of a massive 62 acre development on vacant land directly south of downtown. The center would be roughly 2,000 faculty and students for between one and four semesters. This innovation center would fit right in with what Amazon is looking for, and would be on-site if they end up going with the 62 acre parcel south of Roosevelt Road as their choice. There is a subway tunnel under the property that could handle an infill station to connect the development right to the transit network. There's also a metra rail line running across the property. The land is sunk down below grade, so all transit would probably be "ground level" with the actual development elevated.

It's part of a much larger development to include a new half-mile riverwalk, large parks, many new office and residential highrises. Essentially it is going to be a new neighborhood, developers have been looking at it for years now.

https://chicago.curbed.com/2017/10/1...ment-amazon-hq

Another new development just announced, possibly for Amazon to look at, is a 100 acre plot of unused land directly south of McCormick Place and right next to the lakefront. The old Michel Reese hospital site. Massive area, amazing location.

https://chicago.curbed.com/2017/10/1...nham-lakefront

Other areas would be:

The Old Main Post Office, nearly 3 million square feet itself which is already fully under renovation adjacent to the Blue Line L and also Union Station.

In addition the old Finkl Steel site on the north branch of the Chicago river which was cleared over the past few years. The developer has acquired many other former industrial sites and the city has sold them a massive plot of land that housed their maintenance service for years. The land is now being surrounded by development to the point the city is moving the activities to the south side to free up the land. The development is the most underway of all the proposals, would include an expansion of the 606 trail across the Kennedy Expressway and the river, and a new metra station and dozens of office, residential and retail buildings over dozens of acres.

https://chicago.curbed.com/chicago-d...-606-extension

A 30 acre site which currently houses Chicago Tribune's printing and shipping activity is going to move and they're revamping the land as potential development on a 30 acre site which sits very close to the Finkl Steel site mentioned above. This would include 18 highrises along the Chicago River.

https://chicago.curbed.com/2017/10/4...istrict-amazon

The big push now is to expand transit in the central area as it keeps booming. Especially if the Finkl and Tribune sites start to develop in tandem. Now that the river has suddenly become such a tourist draw and asset, both of these development are going to design largescale riverwalks and focus on the river. This would tie these parcels into the riverfront downtown, which is right to the south.

https://chi.streetsblog.org/2016/10/...transit-again/

The north sections of that plan are probably the most do-able in the near term, especially as the development to the north is the most sure thing at this point. The right-of-way for the leg going from the main train stations downtown to Navy Pier is actually almost entirely there right now. There is a ground level vacant path leading right past Michigan Avenue that's been there the whole time under buildings or tucked into alleys. It's a historical railroad path that never had its rights abandoned, so properties still have to keep it clear of development - a huge asset right now as it would be very needed as a connection from Navy Pier/Michigan Ave right into Union Station and Ogilvie Stations.
 
Old 10-20-2017, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Funky Town, Texas
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probably two-fold


A rapidly expanding company and required workforce is starting to have some real challenges staffing in an area where relos are a bog chunk. Also the tech workforce is highly competitive


So, 1. looking to see if another area can make things easier to scale up employees (potentially in a less competitive city for the employment types)


and 2. while this isn't really a HQ2 it is a desire to have a large operational/development employment center and given their ask they probably felt they could get a substantially beneficial package in a place that meets a lot of their needs


I also am not so sure that an EC facility is really a requirement though if Europe is a play maybe makes a little more sense. I think it has more to do with a place that can scale, have employee resources, and a big package wherever that may be


with all that said I do think a place like Austin may still be too small


places like a DFW, Atlanta, even a Philly or Chicago are large enough that could absorb the growth more easily


on the talent resources I do think a place like Philly is interesting as even if relos required many would not have to move far to dip into huge talent pools within an hour or so even outside the metro


I have heard from a decent source in the real estate business that TX has this, likely DFW guess we will see

If true it will be interesting which location it chooses in the DFW area. They have a ton of great options in that region.
 
Old 10-20-2017, 11:01 AM
 
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If true it will be interesting which location it chooses in the DFW area. They have a ton of great options in that region.
DFW does have some great options, but we have too many bad proposals particularly coming from the self absorbed suburbs with no rail transit to the north.
 
Old 10-20-2017, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Funky Town, Texas
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DFW does have some great options, but we have too many bad proposals particularly coming from the self absorbed suburbs with no rail transit to the north.
Those will be weeded out. The real battle will be between the city of Dallas proposals and Fort Worth panther Island Development.
 
Old 10-20-2017, 11:41 AM
 
Location: BC Canada
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Whether you like Toronto's bid or not or even want them to lose is fine but I don't see how Canada's population has anything to do with it.

These are high-tech non-manufacturing jobs where actual location makes little difference unlike Amazon's distribution centres. Business will be done on the computer and phone, not on a truck. If you think population is an issue then you can write off any areas outside the Bos-NY-Wash corridor. Amazon has flourished from Seattle, the most isolated major city in the US. Hell even the Bay Area is relatively isolated and has the same population as Greater Toronto and Toronto is within a 2 hour flight of literally a 100,000,000 more people than SF is. If Toronto's location and Canada's population was an issue then Toronto wouldn't be home to the world's 8th largest stock exchange.
 
Old 10-20-2017, 11:48 AM
 
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These are high-tech non-manufacturing jobs where actual location makes little difference unlike Amazon's distribution centres.
Actual location does make a difference if the RFP specifies such.

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Amazon has flourished from Seattle, the most isolated major city in the US.
Actually that would be Denver.
 
Old 10-20-2017, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Actually that would be Denver.
Actually Honolulu, which doubles up as not only the most isolated major American city but also the most isolated major city on Earth (just edging out Perth and Auckland for top honors).

I'd also suggest that Salt Lake City is more isolated than Denver. Denver at least has Colorado Springs, which has like 700,000 people or so and will grow to be over 1 million in short order. Salt Lake City is literally all by itself out there. Perhaps Boise and Spokane deserve a mention with regard to isolation as well.
 
Old 10-20-2017, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Aurora, CO
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Actually Honolulu, which doubles up as not only the most isolated major American city but also the most isolated major city on Earth (just edging out Perth and Auckland for top honors).

I'd also suggest that Salt Lake City is more isolated than Denver. Denver at least has Colorado Springs, which has like 700,000 people or so and will grow to be over 1 million in short order. Salt Lake City is literally all by itself out there. Perhaps Boise and Spokane deserve a mention with regard to isolation as well.
In the lower 48 El Paso is more isolated than any of those. Hell it's closer to Phoenix than it is to DFW, Austin, San Antonio, and Houston.
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