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View Poll Results: Where?
New York City 16 3.10%
Greater Boston 32 6.20%
Philly 38 7.36%
DC/N. Virginia 50 9.69%
Raleigh/NC Research Triangle 32 6.20%
Austin 48 9.30%
San Francisco/Bay Area/Silicon Valley 13 2.52%
Baltimore 11 2.13%
Toronto 33 6.40%
Pittsburgh 35 6.78%
Chicago 99 19.19%
Atlanta 109 21.12%
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Old 09-07-2017, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Point Loma, San Diego, CA
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The only thing Pittsburgh lacks is direct flights to Seattle. It has good bike infrastructure and good mass transit for a city that isn't one of the big six.
Pittsburgh's mass transit isn't that far off from what Seattle has now.

 
Old 09-07-2017, 06:19 PM
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Location: Ontario
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Buffalo

Or from the list...Toronto.
 
Old 09-07-2017, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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The Logistics one would remove a lot of mid-size cities from consideration, like Austin, Charlotte, Pittsburgh, etc.
Not true of Charlotte as it is a major hub airport with plenty of nonstop flights. The lack of major local universities is more of where Charlotte falls short - but it's not far away from Raleigh-Durham's institutions.
 
Old 09-07-2017, 06:28 PM
 
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Not true of Charlotte as it is a major hub airport with plenty of nonstop flights. The lack of major local universities is more of where Charlotte falls short - but it's not far away from Raleigh-Durham's institutions.
He's referencing the part noted in the RFP regarding the below.


5. Logistics. Amazon is first and foremost a master of logistics, so it should come as no surprise that the company cares a lot about transportation. Amazon wants on-site access to mass transit—train, subway, or bus—and to be no more than one or two miles from major highways and connecting roads. It wants to be within 45 minutes of an international airport with daily direct flights to Seattle, New York, the San Francisco Bay area, and Washington DC. The company is also asking applicants to identify “all transit options, including bike lanes and pedestrian access” for the proposed site and to rank traffic congestion during peak commuting hours.
 
Old 09-07-2017, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Washington State desert
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It also has the airport, a great university nearby and another one only an hour away, close proximity to Canada's Golden Horseshoe and some infrastructure in place to hold more people/facilities, among other factors.
Detroit, on further thought, might not be as crazy as I initially thought. Seriously, it would probably be able to offer great incentives, and it is centrally located with easy access to many major population centers. (Though, not sure how important that would be for a corporate center). It does offer a lot of land not only in suburban areas but near downtown. Delta offers not only direct but several nonstops to Seattle and could easily expand it.

However, and this is a BIG however, Detroit would be a major gamble for Amazon. One that, knowing this company, is not likely one they would take. Some of the criteria simply don't work. While there are high quality Universities nearby, the city itself is not exactly a tech center, atleast compared to others in consideration, (Boston, Philly, NY, Atlanta, Austin, SF, the list goes on). The Amazon culture would be another area that would likely not work, as attracting young tech types to Detroit could be challenging.

But it is an interesting thought...

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Old 09-07-2017, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Northeast states
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Not true of Charlotte as it is a major hub airport with plenty of nonstop flights. The lack of major local universities is more of where Charlotte falls short - but it's not far away from Raleigh-Durham's institutions.
2 hours 30 mins to those location that far
 
Old 09-07-2017, 07:02 PM
 
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What city has that much space and on multiple transit lines?
Philadelphia definitely does, New York has great transit but it is already overburdened, Boston and DC do as well as Chicago
 
Old 09-07-2017, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Polish Hill, Pittsburgh, PA
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I'm obviously pulling for Pittsburgh since it checks most of the boxes, but if Amazon chose anywhere else in the traditional Rust Belt I'd be thrilled.

NYC, SF Bay Area, DC/NoVA, Boston, Chicago, Minneapolis/St. Paul, and Philadelphia are all THRIVING economically. They don't need Amazon. A city like Detroit, St. Louis, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, or Baltimore? This would be transformational. Jeff Bezos would be able to build a legacy in one of these cities as he helps to restore them to their former glory.

Pittsburgh is a city of ~305,000 in a metro area of ~2,300,000 that functions below its maximum capacity and potential. We have two large shovel-ready sites ready to house a large corporate campus (one of which is adjacent to Downtown and one of which is spitting distance from CMU and Pitt). We also have room Downtown for a signature skyscraper. Our airport is a former hub, and direct flights to Seattle would definitely come from SOME airline if they got whiff that Amazon wanted to come here because it would be a profitable route for them. We have a LOT of the types of "crunchy/bike-friendly/granola/liberal" neighborhoods that Amazon seeks. Coupled with the cloudiness we're almost the Seattle of the East the way it is!

As a personal protest if Amazon picks Tysons, VA I'm never buying a product from them again.
 
Old 09-07-2017, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Brookline
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He's referencing the part noted in the RFP regarding the below.


5. Logistics. Amazon is first and foremost a master of logistics, so it should come as no surprise that the company cares a lot about transportation. Amazon wants on-site access to mass transit—train, subway, or bus—and to be no more than one or two miles from major highways and connecting roads. It wants to be within 45 minutes of an international airport with daily direct flights to Seattle, New York, the San Francisco Bay area, and Washington DC. The company is also asking applicants to identify “all transit options, including bike lanes and pedestrian access” for the proposed site and to rank traffic congestion during peak commuting hours.
One of the shovel ready sites in Pittsburgh is a couple of blocks away from a subway stop and abuts the new planned BRT system. The site is also very walkable from downtown and many of the surrounding neighborhoods. The other shovel ready site is next to a major highway, on a bike trail, and is the site of a proposed automated shuttle service between it and the Oakland neighborhood which is home to Carnegie Mellon University and Pitt. We are also adding so many bike lanes that our mayor is unaffectionately called “Bicycle Bill” by his opponents.

Pittsburgh International has been working on getting a direct Seattle flight since last year, and if Amazon was to choose Pgh that would create instant demand and could easily make it happen. We already have direct daily flights to SF, NYC, and DC.

CSX also just fired up operations this week at its new intermodal rail terminal, so that is another plus in the transportation department.

Again, my hopes are not high for this, but Amazon could truly remake an American city if it chose somewhere like Pittsburgh. For a company that likes to change the way Americans do things, they would have a giant sandbox here to develop a new type of American city. That is not something they are going to do in Boston/Chicago or any other large city.
 
Old 09-07-2017, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Kenai
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Somewhere in Mexico. Why the USA?
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