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View Poll Results: Where?
New York City 16 3.10%
Greater Boston 32 6.20%
Philly 38 7.36%
DC/N. Virginia 50 9.69%
Raleigh/NC Research Triangle 32 6.20%
Austin 48 9.30%
San Francisco/Bay Area/Silicon Valley 13 2.52%
Baltimore 11 2.13%
Toronto 33 6.40%
Pittsburgh 35 6.78%
Chicago 99 19.19%
Atlanta 109 21.12%
Voters: 516. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
Old 10-31-2017, 06:14 AM
 
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People keep bringing up the local talent pool, but that doesn't seem terribly relevant. Or at least it hasn't been to Amazon before. If this is about paralleling the types of jobs they have at HQ1 (my assumption), they want to hire the world's best. Even a huge city like Chicago is only 0.13% of the world.

I also think that any location with regulatory hurdles or political uncertainties is unlikely to get far. My bet would be on a place, probably an urban district, where 8 msf is already planned for.
What do you mean?

 
Old 10-31-2017, 06:40 AM
 
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Croteau said Amazon has made it clear that it needs 500,000 square feet to 750,000 square feet immediately, and about that much in additional space every 18 months through 2027.
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“It’s no surprise to use for such a big decision with 50,000 jobs in the balance that a company would take nine to 12 months in this process,” he said. “With 238 locations submitting, it will certainly take a while.”
These quotes seem to conflict. If Amazon takes 9 to 12 months to choose, then needs 500,000 square feet "immediately," a city that would need to build something in order to accommodate that space would be at an incredible disadvantage. Even space that is available but not near a proposed building site would not be ideal.
 
Old 10-31-2017, 08:45 AM
 
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These quotes seem to conflict. If Amazon takes 9 to 12 months to choose, then needs 500,000 square feet "immediately," a city that would need to build something in order to accommodate that space would be at an incredible disadvantage. Even space that is available but not near a proposed building site would not be ideal.
Since a READY SIGHT for initial HQ2 start is sought ..... Chicago has this sight in redevelopment fully available in spring 2019 undergoing a $600,000 renovation.

Its Old Post Office already into its full renovation. This link offers the AFTER RENOVATIONS.
With its new frontage and entrance along the Chicago river visualized.

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/2017...new-renderings

This has before BLANK SLATE of the building before

Inside the old main post office, a $600 million 'blank canvas' - Chicago Tribune

It has 2.5 million sq/ft available and The old main post office was used to process mail and catalog fulfillment at a time when Sears, Roebuck & Co.; Montgomery Ward; and Spiegel were the Amazons of their time. It has millions of Sq./Ft available to meet the 8 million Amazon wants into the future and around it.

A expressway runs through the building as it straddles the Congress Parkway into the South Loop to the lakefront and the Metro and Amtrak trains ..... right under it. Having continuous floors of up to 250,000 sq./ft., with the largest floor plates in the city near the L in the Loop. Union Station and in the shadow of the Willis (Sears) Tower.

It will be a NEW building within a existing historic Art Deco façade and lobby of marble and a gold-leaf ceiling's 38 Ft high and 9-ft hanging original lighting.
When completed it will have a:
- 40,000 sq./ft. food hall
- 24,000 fitness center
- conference center with a 400 seat auditorium
- 4-acre roof-top green Park
- frontage on the Chicago river with retail.

The site is just one of Chicago's 10 being sold as possible Amazon sights. But WILL BE FULLY READY to house much of Amazon's start of HQ2 in 2019.

It having 2.5 million start and MOVE IN READY might have that extra push in its favor and right downtown Chicago. On the booming Chicago River West branch corridor, with room for a skyscraper too. Union Station nearby also has its planned added millions of sq./Ft. of office space to its iconic structure.

The Union Station planned office towers over its tracks... brings it right next door to the Post Office sight also. But could be further longer term space as needed.

https://chicago.curbed.com/2017/5/25...ster-developer

Last edited by DavePa; 10-31-2017 at 08:57 AM..
 
Old 10-31-2017, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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Here's an interesting pro-DC article:

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...As of last Friday, Washington D.C. had 531 corporate jobs available, the most after Seattle and the San Francisco-Bay Area. If you exclude West Coast cities, and use current job openings density as an important measure for Amazon's HQ2 criteria, Washington D.C. would be a front-runner to win the bid, Baird Equity Research wrote in a note Monday...

Here's the list of cities with the most number of corporate job openings, as of October 27:
Seattle: 4,729
San Francisco/San Jose: 889
Washington D.C./Northern Virginia: 531
Boston: 326
New York City: 315
Vancouver: 271
Los Angeles/Riverside: 196
Austin: 80
Toronto: 60
Chicago: 56
Dallas/Ft. Worth: 54
Sacramento: 54
Denver: 46
Atlanta: 34
Portland: 27
San Diego: 20
Minneapolis/ St. Paul: 19
Houston: 18
Pittsburgh: 17
Phoenix: 16...
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/30/amaz...-openings.html
 
Old 10-31-2017, 11:22 AM
 
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Here's an interesting pro-DC article:


https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/30/amaz...-openings.html
What?? Isn't the fact that so many corporate positions remain unfilled and unfillable in Seattle part of the reason Amazon is opening HQ2 for more talent in a tighter market ? This doesn't make sense.
 
Old 10-31-2017, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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What?? Isn't the fact that so many corporate positions remain unfilled and unfillable in Seattle part of the reason Amazon is opening HQ2 for more talent in a tighter market ? This doesn't make sense.
Suspect indeed.
 
Old 10-31-2017, 11:56 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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This would be a problem if the DC area jobs were listed a while back and no one’s biting, otherwise the analysis would be good.
 
Old 10-31-2017, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Center City
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Here’s a Forbes article that touts Philly’s advantages: https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurenc.../#60720ffa59ba

It’s not a chamber of commerce fluff piece. I think it offers a pretty good assessment of the city’s strengths and weaknesses.
 
Old 10-31-2017, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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So when is the decision actually gonna be made? Tired of speculation.
 
Old 10-31-2017, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Originally Posted by 18Montclair View Post
Here's an interesting pro-DC article:

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/30/amaz...-openings.html
I was going to post this as well. It's a nice indicator of where their white collar office jobs are, relevant because Amazon unlike most other "tech" companies it competes with has a massive number of workers in its blue collar facilities.

Here's something interesting with the internal aspects of this process via Atlanta:
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So far, it appears Amazon is seriously looking at Atlanta. The online retail company put out a Request for Proposals on its website – a free-for-all kind of process.

But, according to people close to situation, the company has approached certain communities to see if they would sign a non-disclosure agreement so they can get more specific information on what Amazon is looking for in its second headquarters.

The company did reach out to representatives working on the metro Atlanta team about the non-disclosure agreement, which local leaders agreed to.


The Georgia Department of Economic Development is leading the recruitment effort for Amazon. Its commissioner, Pat Wilson, would not comment because it is an active prospect.

Gov. Nathan Deal on Sept. 20 said the state is working with the Atlanta region on the proposal that’s due in mid-October. Asked about Atlanta’s chances to secure Amazon, Deal said he had no way of knowing. “Hopefully we’ll remain on the list as they move forward,” he said.

https://saportareport.com/business-l...n-amazons-hq2/
The non-disclosure agreement has been a dividing point amongst cities that have submitted bids. Some have gone public and shared majority of the information of their bid with the general public, whereas others have conducted themselves in total secrecy due to the non-disclosure agreement they've agreed upon with Amazon. This explains why we haven't seen any information or details for the bids in states such as Georgia or Texas publicly.
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