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View Poll Results: Where?
New York City 16 3.10%
Greater Boston 32 6.20%
Philly 38 7.36%
DC/N. Virginia 50 9.69%
Raleigh/NC Research Triangle 32 6.20%
Austin 48 9.30%
San Francisco/Bay Area/Silicon Valley 13 2.52%
Baltimore 11 2.13%
Toronto 33 6.40%
Pittsburgh 35 6.78%
Chicago 99 19.19%
Atlanta 109 21.12%
Voters: 516. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-18-2018, 01:13 PM
 
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now i want to see all the bid videos for the finalists .......

 
Old 01-18-2018, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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It's possible.

HP sure used the flooding as a reason to move some operations to Chippewa Falls, WI and Austin.

https://news.thomasnet.com/featured/...facturing-jobs
Probably not just the flooding, I heard a lot about soil contamination from the oil industry spreading with the flood waters. I also think Houston would also be a harder sell to get new employees to relocate to than Miami. Miami has a certain glamour that Houston doesn't have.

I'm glad Chicago is still in it. We've got an awful lot of the things that they're looking for.
 
Old 01-18-2018, 01:21 PM
 
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General breakdown of the top 20 from Bloomberg.

Atlanta
Pros: A major airline hub and home to big corporations, such as UPS, Coca-Cola and Delta. A recent focus on redevelopment projects like the BeltLine -- a series of parks built on an old railroad spur that runs through the city -- may add to the city’s appeal.
Cons: It’s still not that cool. Amazon prides itself on its urban Seattle locations being walkable and bikable, and a more suburban city like Atlanta may contradict that spirit. Terrible traffic, too.

Austin
Pros: Close to the distribution and business hub of Dallas but much hipper. No Texas income tax, an established tech industry and home to Whole Foods, which Amazon recently acquired.
Cons: Small airport. Despite surging population, still doesn’t feel like a major U.S. city.

Boston
Pros: Proximity to Harvard, MIT and a wealth of other colleges and universities, an airport with nonstop flights to Seattle and Washington, D.C., and a track record for providing rich relocation benefits, like the incentives the city offered GE in 2015.
Cons: Has some of the same drawbacks as New York—high cost of living, tight residential and commercial real estate markets—without the same cultural amenities and depth of talent.

Chicago
Pros: A heavy concentration of operations, marketing, finance and sales employees to poach from other industries. Good public transit, walkable neighborhoods and a variety of housing choices, from downtown apartments to traditional suburbs.
Cons: Shootings in the city have become national news, and the state is still emerging from dire financial straits. Digging its government out of debt could require tax hikes and cuts to public services.

Columbus
Pros: A major research university in Ohio State, a fast-growing economy and cheap housing.
Cons: The housing is cheap for a reason.

Dallas
Pros: Has been a magnet for corporate relocations in the last two decades, offering high quality of life and access to a deep pool of workers. There’s no state income tax, and unlike Austin, it’s a major city and an airline hub.
Cons: Dallas suburbs may seem pretty stodgy to Amazon employees used to the cultural amenities in downtown Seattle.

Denver
Pros: Denver is already popular with tech companies. Colorado boasts strong engineering schools and trounces the other finalists when it comes to close proximity to fresh powder. Fresh, and legal, pot, too, for those who partake.
Cons: The exodus of workers to Denver’s burgeoning tech hub has already stretched the local housing market. Doesn’t offer a lot of geographic diversity from Seattle.

Indianapolis
Pros: Tech company salaries would go far in the heartland, and choosing Indianapolis would make Amazon arguably the most important employer in middle America.
Cons: The sheer of size of the Amazon HQ could swamp the city’s residential and commercial real estate markets. As in Columbus, the cheap housing here isn’t a mystery.

Los Angeles
Pros: The tech giant’s Amazon Studios division—quickly becoming a force in Hollywood, with original streaming TV series such as “Transparent” and “Man in the High Castle”—is based in Santa Monica.
Cons: It’s an expensive place to live, a hard place to build in and, like Denver, it doesn’t offer a lot of geographic diversity from Seattle.

Miami
Pros: The Seattle workforce could use a little sun. Bezos, currently the richest man in the world, attended Miami Palmetto Senior High School.
Cons: Lacks an existing tech ecosystem, has high housing costs and might be under water at some point.

Montgomery County
Pros: This Maryland county is one of three bids in or near the District of Columbia to land on the shortlist. Bezos has put down roots in the area with his acquisitions of the Washington Post and the city’s largest private home.
Cons: Commercial real estate is probably more available here than in the U.S. capital, but the trade-off is asking the company’s workforce to work in the ’burbs.

Nashville
Pros: Good universities, no Tennessee income tax and fame as the country music capital of the world have already made the city popular with major employers.
Cons: Like Austin and Denver, the city has already succeeded in convincing companies to relocate, and the local housing market has struggled to keep up with the flood of new workers.

Newark
Pros: Proximity to New York without the Big Apple’s staggering home prices. In October, then-New Jersey Governor Chris Christie pledged to back the city’s bid to lure Amazon with as much as $7 billion in tax breaks.
Cons: The city might be a tough sell for workers over San Francisco, Los Angeles or New York.

New York
Pros: Locating in New York would give Amazon access to the world’s top pool of finance and media talent and a growing tech scene.
Cons: Housing prices are already high, one of the reasons locals in Seattle are pushing back against the company’s expansion there. There’s also limited space for new office construction.

Northern Virginia
Pros: Like Washington, D.C., and Montgomery County, Northern Virginia offers an educated workforce and proximity to both the federal government and the Washington Post. Commercial real estate is easier to come by than in the District of Columbia.
Cons: The area isn’t as strong on urban appeal as some of the other contenders.

Philadelphia
Pros: Good transit, large population, and it’s close to New York and Washington, with much lower housing costs.
Cons: Amazon would have to convince workers in those cities that giving up cultural amenities for cheaper housing is a trade worth making.

Pittsburgh
Pros: Home to top AI and robotics university Carnegie Mellon, which have already drawn top tech companies like Google and Uber. Close to major distribution hubs in the middle of the country.
Cons: It’s far from other major cities and tech hubs.

Raleigh
Pros: Part of an existing tech hub; offers cheap housing, good quality of life and the chance for Amazon to put its stamp on a city in a way that it couldn’t in more established metros.
Cons: Clashes over gender identity and other hot political issues suggest North Carolina is still struggling over its own identity.

Toronto
Pros: A major financial and technology hub and a population that would put it among the top 10 U.S. metropolitan areas. Potentially easier to hire people from abroad because of a more open tone on immigration from the government than in the U.S.
Cons: Housing prices are high compared to cities like Atlanta. The city also doesn’t have much space for housing and commercial development required for HQ2 in the downtown core. Moving integral operations north of the border holds political risks in dealing with the Trump administration.

Washington, D.C.
Pros: A strong technology workforce and proximity to lawmakers and regulators. Bezos put down roots in the area with his 2013 acquisition of the Washington Post.
Cons: Lack of space and zoning restrictions could make it hard to find enough office space. Sticking the headquarters in the ’burbs would make it easier to find land but harder to appeal to workers. And you don’t get a U.S. senator to fight for you on the Hill.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...nders-stack-up

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Old 01-18-2018, 01:21 PM
 
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And this is exactly why my top contenders are Atlanta, Austin, Chicago, and Dallas. Amazon will not only need tech talent, but other smart people for the other roles at HQ2 (e.g., legal staff, human resources, finance). To me, regional satellite cities like Raleigh, Indy, Columbus, Pittsburgh, and Nashville are a very hard sale to new hires who are relocating, whether they are 22 and just out of college or 45 and relocating their families. High cost of living cities like Boston, New York (Newark), D.C. (DMV) and Philly similarly seem like a non-starter. Why pay $225K for a senior in house lawyer in New York when you can pay her $160K in Austin or Atlanta? And while that new finance hire may just love being in a bustling city like NYC at 22, by 30 shes probably married, wants space for her growing family, and wants to see her money go further. Whats that saying for NYC you either have to be young, rich, or from there?

That leaves Los Angeles (which I think is too geographically close to Seattle to make sense), Toronto (which I think could be a PR nightmare given we really need more US jobs), Denver (too geographically close still I think), and Miami (for which I have no real reason to exclude save the fact that it doesnt strike me as a city you put your HQ in).

Candidly, I think its between Austin and Atlanta. And I also think Amazon has already narrowed the decision to 3-5 candidates and that many of these cities are frankly filler to keep us talking.
TIL Philly is a high COL city like Boston, New York, and DC.
 
Old 01-18-2018, 01:49 PM
 
Location: North America
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General breakdown of the top 20 from Bloomberg.


Los Angeles
Pros: The tech giant’s Amazon Studios division—quickly becoming a force in Hollywood, with original streaming TV series such as “Transparent” and “Man in the High Castle”—is based in Santa Monica.
Cons: It’s an expensive place to live, a hard place to build in and, like Denver, it doesn’t offer a lot of geographic diversity from Seattle.




https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...nders-stack-up
I dont think Los Angeles will get picked for the HQs, but I agree that Amazon will bring have a big impact in the media market. A lot of large tech empires are getting into the media market trying to capture what Netflix, Youtube and Hulu have done. Facebook is getting some real estate in Culver City. Google is already in the Silicon Valley (beach).

LA is expensive but not out of reach for highly paid tech industry people. There is so much land to infill. Geographic diversity? Have you been to LA area? Similar to seattle just more sunshine and warmth and less rain/trees. It is not a con.

But I dont LA will land the big HQ esp since northern California has so many of them.
 
Old 01-18-2018, 01:57 PM
 
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I dont think Los Angeles will get picked for the HQs, but I agree that Amazon will bring have a big impact in the media market. A lot of large tech empires are getting into the media market trying to capture what Netflix, Youtube and Hulu have done.
Just another reason for Amazon to choose Philly for their HQ2 and be a stone's throw away from Comcast!
 
Old 01-18-2018, 02:05 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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So apparently its actually 21 bids on the shortlist. Somerville, MA was also included and confirmed by Amazon.

https://www.bizjournals.com/boston/n...-included.html

For reference this is the Somerville bid:

http://ifa.somervillema.gov.s3.amazo...ma-digital.pdf
 
Old 01-18-2018, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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General breakdown of the top 20 from Bloomberg.



Austin
Pros: Close to the distribution and business hub of Dallas but much hipper. No Texas income tax, an established tech industry and home to Whole Foods, which Amazon recently acquired.
Cons: Small airport. Despite surging population, still doesn’t feel like a major U.S. city.

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Oh no, you didn't just type that.


Actually, I don't think proximity to distro hub is a factor.

Really enjoyed your post.
 
Old 01-18-2018, 02:08 PM
 
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Oh no, you didn't just type that.


Actually, I don't think proximity to distro hub is a factor.
I sure didn't. I'm not looking for an angry mob behind me =)
 
Old 01-18-2018, 02:19 PM
 
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