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Old 09-15-2017, 10:48 AM
 
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Is Schuylkill Yards big enough? It looks like a great idea but when I was looking through it, it said something about supporting 25,000 jobs.

It also appears to be designed with significant residential space - I'm not sure that Amazonians want to actually live on site...
Quick commute times!

 
Old 09-15-2017, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Is Schuylkill Yards big enough? It looks like a great idea but when I was looking through it, it said something about supporting 25,000 jobs.

It also appears to be designed with significant residential space - I'm not sure that Amazonians want to actually live on site...
Schuylkill Yards is just the beginning. Through Schuylkill Yards, they could probably, easily carve out 4-5 million square feet of office space for Amazon.

After Schuylkill Yards is filled out? Hello 30th Street District! This is an entire site with the possibility to hold 18 million square feet of development. Easily enough room for another 3-4 million square feet for Amazon, or more!

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A site like Schuylkill Yards/30th Street station offers almost unlimited connectivity and recruitment opportunities for talent, with not only connectivity to the Philadelphia region and it's universities, but to the Philadelphia International Airport, Newark International Airport, Baltimore, NYC, DC, and beyond. It also offers Amazon with nearly unlimited growth potential. This is also a BOLD plan, which will allow Amazon the opportunity to build up a skyscraper campus on par with, or far exceeding the one in Seattle.

PS - Amazon employees wouldn't have to live on site. This isn't an isolated area... the site is on the edge of one of the largest Downtowns in the country. Schuylkill Yards/30th Street District also sits directly next to 30th Street Station, with not only Amtrak access, but NJ transit access, trolley access, subway access, and an intensive regional rail network via SEPTA. Employees working here could live anywhere else in the city, or in nearly any surrounding suburb in PA or NJ, and have direct transit access, or highway access to this site.

You wanna live in Center City? No problem! South Philadelphia? No problem! Manayunk? Chestnut Hill? Fox Chase? No problem!
You wanna live in Cherry Hill? Collingswood? Haddonfield? No problem.
You wanna live in Ardmore? Conshohocken? Bryn Mawr? Bala Cynwyd? Doylestown? Jenkintown? Ambler? Media? No problem!

Transit access to this site is almost unparalleled in the country.
 
Old 09-15-2017, 11:08 AM
 
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Schuylkill Yards is just the beginning. Through Schuylkill Yards, they could probably, easily carve out 4-5 million square feet of office space for Amazon.

After Schuylkill Yards is filled out? Hello 30th Street District! This is an entire site with the possibility to hold 18 million square feet of development. Easily enough room for another 3-4 million square feet for Amazon, or more!

Rendering:
https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...enter+City.jpg

Website:
Press Room

A site like Schuylkill Yards/30th Street station offers almost unlimited connectivity and recruitment opportunities for talent, with not only connectivity to the Philadelphia region and it's universities, but to the Philadelphia International Airport, Newark International Airport, Baltimore, NYC, DC, and beyond. It also offers Amazon with nearly unlimited growth potential. This is also a BOLD plan, which will allow Amazon the opportunity to build up a skyscraper campus on par with, or far exceeding the one in Seattle.

PS - Amazon employees wouldn't have to live on site. This isn't an isolated area... the site is on the edge of one of the largest Downtowns in the country. Schuylkill Yards/30th Street District also sits directly next to 30th Street Station, with not only Amtrak access, but NJ transit access, trolley access, subway access, and an intensive regional rail network via SEPTA. Employees working here could live anywhere else in the city, or in nearly any surrounding suburb in PA or NJ, and have direct transit access, or highway access to this site.

You wanna live in Center City? No problem! South Philadelphia? No problem! Manayunk? Chestnut Hill? Fox Chase? No problem!
You wanna live in Cherry Hill? Collingswood? Haddonfield? No problem.
You wanna live in Ardmore? Conshohocken? Bryn Mawr? Bala Cynwyd? Doylestown? Jenkintown? Ambler? Media? No problem!

Transit access to this site is almost unparalleled in the country.




agreed, maybe only Penn Station or GCS in NYC has more one-seat ride rail transit access directly available than does SYs


I would argue that no single location in DC, Boston or Chicago has more connected one seat ride access like 30th does including airport and other city rail access let alone any other cities. On that front it really excels


in fact the place itself not only has direct rail access to PHL but is in and of itself already an arrival/destination code (ticketed) share for United via Amtrak to EWR

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Old 09-15-2017, 11:23 AM
 
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they still have to deal with these cities for other projects though, and it would not serve them well long term to **** people off for no reason, if other proposals didn't at least have a fair shot.
Maybe, but they're never going to know they didn't have a fair shot. Its not going to be a public decision making process.
 
Old 09-15-2017, 11:31 AM
 
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yes but that is far to simplistic


much crime is tied to very specific neighborhoods where rates skyrocket where others plunge




for example DT SF has a higher crime rate than DT Philly whereas N Philly would be significantly higher than SF nabes etc.


in isolation stats can be misleading
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Except that's not how statistics work.

You do realize that likelihood of being a victim of a crime is not evenly spread across the general population, right? You're portraying violent crime as though its quite random, when in fact, the vast majority of it is not. Underlying those statistics are people who are MUCH more likely to be in unfortunate circumstances of gang involvement, drug trade, or those who are in some of the most poverty-stricken neighborhoods in the US.
I agree with all this but all other things being equal crime rates are still an argument to choose cities like Boston, Seattle, San Diego, and Austin over Philly and Chicago. Even for trivial reasons like attractiveness, many potential employees will perceive Philly and Chicago as high crime and would rather work and live in Boston, Seattle, San Diego, or Austin instead.
 
Old 09-15-2017, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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I agree with all this but all other things being equal crime rates are still an argument to choose cities like Boston, Seattle, San Diego, and Austin over Philly and Chicago. Even for trivial reasons like attractiveness, many potential employees will perceive Philly and Chicago as high crime and would rather work and live in Boston, Seattle, San Diego, or Austin instead.
Well, since both Philadelphia and Chicago are larger cities and metropolitan regions than Boston, Seattle, San Diego and Austin, we'll just have to agree to disagree. Clearly, more people ALREADY CHOOSE to live in Philadelphia and Chicago (and their respective regions) over these places.

Let's take Comcast for instance... which is located in Center City Philadelphia, and has built itself into one of the largest media, tech and telecommunications companies in the world. They have had no problem recruiting, and are about to fill a second, larger, 1M+ square foot office tower in Center City in 8 years. The total office space they occupy in Center City is close to 4M square feet.
 
Old 09-15-2017, 11:35 AM
 
Location: The City
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I agree with all this but all other things being equal crime rates are still an argument to choose cities like Boston, Seattle, San Diego, and Austin over Philly and Chicago. Even for trivial reasons like attractiveness, many potential employees will perceive Philly and Chicago as high crime and would rather work and live in Boston, Seattle, San Diego, or Austin instead.


and understand your points and yes do believe those and perception all play in as well as many other aspects


perception would hurt the Philly bid I would agree, hopefully enough tangibles allow for a true look see as to what Philly would bring as well as other cities (with similar or different aspects or perception issues including over perception issues)
 
Old 09-15-2017, 11:49 AM
 
Location: The City
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I agree with all this but all other things being equal crime rates are still an argument to choose cities like Boston, Seattle, San Diego, and Austin over Philly and Chicago. Even for trivial reasons like attractiveness, many potential employees will perceive Philly and Chicago as high crime and would rather work and live in Boston, Seattle, San Diego, or Austin instead.


also I should note that Philly among large cities might surprise you in that it has the highest percentage of downtown population with advanced degrees. though the city (proper) on the whole would under-index relative to some others. On the metro area there is no shortage of educated populous among the ~7 million folks


interestingly Philly does well in attracting Int'l immigrants and educated ones yet shows net migration loss for US folks, which is ironic in that nearly all US cities have higher crime rates than these immigrtants come from yet doesn't deter them




I think job growth is the biggest deterrent to in migration of US folks, this HQ would stimulate that


I think crime and reputation factor in but more then either of those available desirable jobs may be the single biggest factor in many decisions to move
 
Old 09-15-2017, 03:00 PM
 
Location: BC Canada
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I still say that if Amazon is less concerned with crime and wants to be in an Eastern time zone in a city where they can have a truly transformative effect on the city the Cleveland is the sleeper.

It's extremely affordable, has a good transit system and one of the best airport to downtown rail connections in NA, is progressive, has a vibrant downtown, is multicultural, and has a lot of pedestrian friendly streets, some excellent universities, and a very vibrant arts and cultural scene. It is also very well located being near the high population areas of the Atlantic Seaboard, Eastern Canada, and the Mid-West/Great Lakes all backed up by good rail/road connections and a major port.
 
Old 09-15-2017, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles-Houston-DFW
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Amazon is coming to Houston...

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