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View Poll Results: Where?
New York City 16 3.10%
Greater Boston 32 6.20%
Philly 38 7.36%
DC/N. Virginia 50 9.69%
Raleigh/NC Research Triangle 32 6.20%
Austin 48 9.30%
San Francisco/Bay Area/Silicon Valley 13 2.52%
Baltimore 11 2.13%
Toronto 33 6.40%
Pittsburgh 35 6.78%
Chicago 99 19.19%
Atlanta 109 21.12%
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Old 09-16-2017, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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Not sure Amazon even cares about regulations and permitting. They are looking for the perfect city, and if they can get some of those bonus items, all the better. In the end, my belief is they will choose a 2nd HQ that has similar qualities to Seattle, and the business regs are secondary, but still somewhat important.

Again, look to Texas.
I don't think it will be a red state with suspect public transportation. Yes, Texas is cheap and will throw money at them, but it isn't just about that.

 
Old 09-16-2017, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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You've got me mulling over Austin more and more but I hardly think it's a done deal. I read the RFP in its entirety and it was very detailed and comprehensive. If you already had a candidate chosen why go to such painstaking lengths to draft such a detailed RFP? Plus it's a really ****ty thing to do to ask cities across the country to devote resources to proposals when you already know who you're going to pick. Amazon didn't have to do this. They chose to. It doesn't seem like anything is final at this point.

None of the cities will get an A+ on the RFP. None. Best will be an A-/B+. But I think Boston, Chicago, Atlanta, and Austin are at the top of the class. They all fall short of Amazon's wishlist in some ways but nail it in others.
I'm in sales. Alot of times, the winner is chosen and the rfp is written with their verbiage. Everyone else is actually fodder. Not saying that's what's happening here.
 
Old 09-16-2017, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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This is one of the most reasoned and 'real world' posts in this thread to date, so many thanks to you Bluefox.

After traveling for a week and being unable to post, I must say that after reading through this thread I am totally amused at all of the heads exploding at the mere mention of Atlanta being in the running.
We must be reading a different thread. A lot of pro Atlanta posts here.
 
Old 09-16-2017, 02:59 PM
 
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Amazon made a specific point of stating that the chosen city MUST have good transit and a airport to downtown rail link. That alone wipes out Austin, Indianapolis, Columbus, Charlotte, Raleigh, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Detroit, Ottawa, Albany, and host of others that have little chance to begin with.
No, I don't think Amazon requires that.
 
Old 09-16-2017, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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Amazon made a specific point of stating that the chosen city MUST have good transit and a airport to downtown rail link. That alone wipes out Austin, Indianapolis, Columbus, Charlotte, Raleigh, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Detroit, Ottawa, Albany, and host of others that have little chance to begin with.

Vancouver and Portland are a write-off. Why get a HQ2 so close and not just expand the current one? The whole point is to create a new tech centre to serve NA and the PNW is about as isolated as you can get in NA. Denver checks a lot of the boxes as does Dallas, St. Louis, Minneapolis, and Chicago but I just think that Amazon is looking for a Eastern time zone city. Montreal would have a very hard time finding qualified workers who would be comfortable moving to a French speaking city and Trudeau International is not a very well connected airport. I also don't think NYC has a shot either or they would have simply announced the new headquarters. Amazon is a very liberal company and would want to be in a city/state/province that reflects that and that writes-off Atlanta.

For all the above reasons I think it comes down to Boston, Toronto, Philly, Washington, and Cleveland as an outsider. Philly, Cleveland, and Washington are hurt by their high crime rates and Boston and Toronto by their high cost of living although less so Toronto due to the dollar "subsidy".
Crime rate will not be in play and I don't think COL will be either.
 
Old 09-16-2017, 03:08 PM
 
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Tap into a neighboring state? That's not the point. A company like Amazon taps into the whole world's talent pool. The Seattle workforce is probably at least 90% newcomers to the area, at least in the technical and leadership positions. That includes a large foreign percentage.
Its a fact that most migration in the US in intra-state and a large part of the remaining is intra-regional. Vary few people will actually move across the country.
 
Old 09-16-2017, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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We must be reading a different thread. A lot of pro Atlanta posts here.
I can assure you I am reading the same, entire thread. Have you, or are you just 'jumping in?'
 
Old 09-16-2017, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I don't think it will be a red state with suspect public transportation.
You have just eliminated almost every state East of the Mississippi.
 
Old 09-16-2017, 03:19 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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No, I don't think Amazon requires that.
Why do you feel that Amazon's requirements aren't the requirements Amazon is looking for?
 
Old 09-16-2017, 03:19 PM
 
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After traveling for a week and being unable to post, I must say that after reading through this thread I am totally amused at all of the heads exploding at the mere mention of Atlanta being in the running.
Not really. There has been a lot of comments flying so maybe someone has said something, but it would be mixed with jabs at other cities too.
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