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Old 09-16-2017, 03:21 PM
 
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Why do you feel that Amazon's requirements aren't the requirements Amazon is looking for?
He didn't say that. Actually he echoed something that I noted a page or so back which is that something was stated as a requirement that wasn't a requirement.

So I guess the question is why do you feel that items not in Amazon's explicit RFP are the requirements that Amazon is looking for instead of what they actually have in the RFP?

 
Old 09-16-2017, 04:06 PM
 
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Why do you feel that Amazon's requirements aren't the requirements Amazon is looking for?
It's possible it's for leveraging tax breaks.
Something like "oh we would love to come to Nashville but you don't have xxx" and then the city will scramble for tax breaks.
 
Old 09-16-2017, 04:12 PM
 
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No, it doesn't 'write-off' Atlanta. The City of Atlanta is about as liberal as they come in the States, and Georgia is very pro-business. Metro Atlanta has one of the largest LGBT communities on the Continent.

You have either never been to the Southeast at all, or haven't been paying attention. This isn't 1950.
No its 2017, Trump beat Clinton in GA by over 5 percentage points, and Karen Handel beat Jon Ossoff in the congressional special election. Both the state and this seat went red. You can be "pro-business" and red as well, they are two separate issues. Compare this to Illinois where Chicago is located, and Trump only got 38% of the vote.

I don't know if Bezos even cares on leanings red or blue, but don't pretend GA isn't naturally red. I am not saying this is good or bad in any way, just a fact.
 
Old 09-16-2017, 04:20 PM
 
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Not an issue for Atlanta, as it is actually more connected globally than Seattle is.
You're optimistic, which is fine. But obviously recruiting the world's top tech talent is an area where Atlanta and most cities aren't proven. Seattle is proven on a much larger scale.
 
Old 09-16-2017, 04:27 PM
 
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You're optimistic, which is fine. But obviously recruiting the world's top tech talent is an area where Atlanta and most cities aren't proven. Seattle is proven on a much larger scale.
One thing to remember is people follow jobs and jobs then build off that. Most of these do already do attract tech transplants. This in of itself will speed demand for most places. Let's not kid ourselves to think transplants would go most places without the job demand to bring them. Or pretend that 50k such would not induce demand and people to transplant in places like say an Atlanta or Chicago or Philly or wherever
 
Old 09-16-2017, 04:33 PM
 
Location: The Pacific Northwest
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One thing to remember is people follow jobs and jobs then build off that. Most of these do already do attract tech transplants. This in of itself will speed demand for most places. Let's not kid ourselves to think transplants would go most places without the job demand to bring them. Or pretend that 50k such would not induce demand and people to transplant in places like say an Atlanta or Chicago or Philly or wherever
I agree but I think his point is that it's sort of a buyers market with tech jobs. They want to attract top talent and they have to compete with other tech giants for that. So being in a city where people want to move is a factor. I'm not quite sure what makes Austin so much more attractive than Atlanta however and it actually falls short of Atlanta in many regards. But again, that's why they are emphasizing regional talent. So much easier to recruit.
 
Old 09-16-2017, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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No its 2017, Trump beat Clinton in GA by over 5 percentage points, and Karen Handel beat Jon Ossoff in the congressional special election. Both the state and this seat went red. You can be "pro-business" and red as well, they are two separate issues. Compare this to Illinois where Chicago is located, and Trump only got 38% of the vote.
Big freaking deal. It doesn't change the fact that Atlanta is a very progressive City, and has been for a long time. Cradle of Civil Rights and Olympics ring a bell maybe?

This isn't our first time at the rodeo, we have been experts at this for over 100 years. To underestimate us would be a mistake.

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I don't know if Bezos even cares on leanings red or blue, but don't pretend GA isn't naturally red. I am not saying this is good or bad in any way, just a fact.
Of course Georgia is red outside of the Metro, just like the majority of States after the last election.

That has not stopped us from booming like never before for very valid reasons, and our State Government has refused to go down the paths of some neighboring States with regressive social laws.
 
Old 09-16-2017, 04:54 PM
 
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You're optimistic, which is fine. But obviously recruiting the world's top tech talent is an area where Atlanta and most cities aren't proven. Seattle is proven on a much larger scale.
Atlanta is proven for decades now. The most diverse spot in America, the whole nation, is east in a town called clarkston. Atlanta is missing a lot of things. International and diversity ain't missing.

Many, many people are leaving the SF bay area, as I write, because a 40 year old shouldn't be living with roomates making $175k. Amazon was quick to state they didn't want that. So you can forget Boston, NYC and the like.

Thus the south is booming.
 
Old 09-16-2017, 04:55 PM
 
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You're optimistic, which is fine. But obviously recruiting the world's top tech talent is an area where Atlanta and most cities aren't proven. Seattle is proven on a much larger scale.
And you would be very wrong. Take a look at the top companies based in Atlanta, and rethink what you just posted. All of our top firms are very global in stature, and always have been.

Coca-Cola, Delta & UPS are about as global as it can possibly get. Throw in the CDC, and we've been at this long before Seattle was nothing more than an important regional City that happened to sell planes and lumber overseas. Georgia Tech produces some of the top Tech talent every year, just as much if not moreso than UW does.

Some of you in Seattle really need to bring the reality notch back down a little....

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Old 09-16-2017, 05:11 PM
 
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And you would be very wrong. Take a look at the top companies based in Atlanta, and rethink what you just posted. All of our top firms are very global in stature, and always have been.

Coca-Cola, Delta & UPS are about as global as it can possibly get. Throw in the CDC, and we've been at this long before Seattle was nothing more than an important regional City that happened to sell planes and lumber overseas. Georgia Tech produces some of the top Tech talent every year, just as much if not moreso than UW does.

Some of you in Seattle really need to bring the reality notch back down a little....
Seattle is a great, great city. Atlanta is indeed not well know, at least not how much activity and business goes on.

It has in part to do with that the population centers of the new economy will be in the South and out west. Amazon would love to set up in Boston, and it's great for short term. It's really bad long term. They have to pick a Denver, or Atlanta because of how society is changing.
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