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New York City 16 3.10%
Greater Boston 32 6.20%
Philly 38 7.36%
DC/N. Virginia 50 9.69%
Raleigh/NC Research Triangle 32 6.20%
Austin 48 9.30%
San Francisco/Bay Area/Silicon Valley 13 2.52%
Baltimore 11 2.13%
Toronto 33 6.40%
Pittsburgh 35 6.78%
Chicago 99 19.19%
Atlanta 109 21.12%
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Old 09-07-2017, 02:37 PM
 
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New major headquarters are usually near cities with international airports. That means that Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, Detroit, Chicago, Denver, Minneapolis and Miami would all fit the bill in that regard.

 
Old 09-07-2017, 02:42 PM
 
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I wouldn't mind seeing this come to pass. Detroit really seems to be making a concerted effort to alter the negative perceptions about it, and this would go a long way towards doing that.
I rather think that Amazon will be looking in the Eastern Time Zone, however.
In the end, it may not be a top 10 metro at all. Amazon may like idea of locating in a mid-tier city like Charlotte, Greenville, Richmond, Columbus or Louisville where their brand would dominate the business landscape...much like Coca-Cola and Delta in Atlanta, Microsoft in Seattle and Berkshire-Hathaway in Omaha.
And Detroit is in the Eastern Time Zone.

And being that Amazon wants to be in a metro with a major airport, the only likely candidate of the cities you mentioned is Charlotte. The only prospect in SC would be the Charlotte suburbs in York/Lancaster counties, not Greenville.

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lots of states are going to throw money at Amazon, and those states didn't actively try to block one of Amazons major projects. That is a big strike against North Carolina.
True but this one would be a lot less 'controversial.'
 
Old 09-07-2017, 02:47 PM
 
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The RFP from Amazon to cities include the below:
https://qz.com/1071832/amazons-hq2-w...-headquarters/
The e-commerce and logistics giant is obsessed with the transportation options. It’s evaluating prospective metro areas on eight specific criteria:

1. Site/building. Amazon is looking for existing buildings of at least 500,000 square feet and total site space of up to 8 million sq ft. It would like the site to be within 30 miles of a population center and within 45 minutes of an international airport. It prefers metro areas with more than 1 million people. Its Seattle headquarters includes 33 buildings totaling 8.1 million sq ft.

2. Capital and operating costs. Amazon is prioritizing “stable and business-friendly regulations and tax structure” in its considerations. The company is seeking out incentives from state and local governments “to offset initial capital outlay and ongoing operational costs.” At its Seattle headquarters, Amazon says it invested $3.7 billion in buildings and infrastructure from 2010 to 2017, and spent another $1.4 billion on utilities and maintenance.

3. Incentives. The company is asking applicants to outline the specific types of incentives they could offer, such as tax credits and relocation grants, as well calculations on the amount of total incentives that could be provided. “The initial and ongoing cost of doing business are critical decision drivers,” the RFP states.

4. Labor force. Hiring 50,000 skilled workers is no easy task, and Amazon wants to make sure its new headquarters is in an area with a readily available pool of talent. The company is prioritizing sites with a “strong university system.” It’s asked cities to provide a list of universities and community colleges with “relevant degrees” plus the number of students to graduate with those degrees over the past three years. Amazon also wants information on computer-science programs in the local and regional K-12 education system.

5. Logistics. Amazon is first and foremost a master of logistics, so it should come as no surprise that the company cares a lot about transportation. Amazon wants on-site access to mass transit—train, subway, or bus—and to be no more than one or two miles from major highways and connecting roads. It wants to be within 45 minutes of an international airport with daily direct flights to Seattle, New York, the San Francisco Bay area, and Washington DC. The company is also asking applicants to identify “all transit options, including bike lanes and pedestrian access” for the proposed site and to rank traffic congestion during peak commuting hours.

6. Time to operations. To begin construction as soon as possible, Amazon wants an outline of the permitting process and approximate timetable ahead of “Phase 1” of the building process—the first 500,000 to 1 million sq ft, for an investment of $300 million to $600 million.

7. Cultural community fit. Like any tech company, Amazon cares about “culture fit.” It defines this as a diverse population, strong higher-education system, and local government that is “eager and willing to work with the company.” Amazon is asking cities to “demonstrate characteristics of this” in their responses. “We encourage testimonials from other large companies,” it adds.

8. Community/quality of life. The new headquarters should be in a place where people want to live. Amazon is interested in daily living and recreational opportunities for people in each proposed metro area. It is also requesting information about housing prices and availability, general cost of living, and crime statistics.
 
Old 09-07-2017, 02:47 PM
 
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New major headquarters are usually near cities with international airports. That means that Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, Detroit, Chicago, Denver, Minneapolis and Miami would all fit the bill in that regard.
The airport situation is a knock against Austin, but I think it's international offerings will grow as it continues to grow fast and it will become the regional (including the San Antonio metro area here) international airport. I know SA offers a few flights to Latin America, but flights to Asia and Europe have a better chance of originating from Austin than SA imo.
 
Old 09-07-2017, 02:51 PM
 
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The airport situation is a knock against Austin, but I think it's international offerings will grow as it continues to grow fast and it will become the regional (including the San Antonio metro area here) international airport. I know SA offers a few flights to Latin America, but flights to Asia and Europe have a better chance of originating from Austin than SA imo.
Any scalable international airport will do. If customs is already in place, and the airport can accommodate large planes, adding routes is no big deal.
 
Old 09-07-2017, 02:57 PM
 
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Detroit would be an awesome bang for their buck. Educated populace, close to major universities, cheap land, lots of cheap rehab house opportunities. Detroit could really use the jolt of money and people. Here in Seattle, we've had sufficient and it's time to spread the wealth around.
Detroit would be my guess too as I think Bezos is the type of guy who would want to see it turning around plus be a major PR coup for the company. Remember this is the company that bought Whole Foods to make organics cheaper for the "average person", and choosing a second base will probably involve some similar thought process in terms of sharing the wealth with cities not already riding the IT wave.
 
Old 09-07-2017, 03:05 PM
 
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Detroit would be my guess too as I think Bezos is the type of guy who would want to see it turning around plus be a major PR coup for the company. Remember this is the company that bought Whole Foods to make organics cheaper for the "average person", and choosing a second base will probably involve some similar thought process in terms of sharing the wealth with cities not already riding the IT wave.
That's another nod towards Pittsburgh. With it's smaller population, 50,000 jobs would completely revitalize Pittsburgh, which already has the advantage of having Carnegie Mellon. Pittsburgh's airport doesn't have a ton of routes, but it was built as US Airways' hub, so it can very easily take on more capacity, and it's already an international airport.
 
Old 09-07-2017, 03:15 PM
 
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The logistics of many of these cities would likely knock them out of candidacy. The likes of Nashville, Charlotte, Raleigh, Austin and other mid-sized cities do not have the infrastructure to support a massive development like this. Wherever Amazon hopes to build, it will probably be in a metro as large as, if not larger than, Seattle.

Boston, Atlanta, DC, Toronto, New York, Chicago, and Dallas seem like the obvious candidates. Philadelphia and Detroit are dark horses.
 
Old 09-07-2017, 03:28 PM
 
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50,000 employees has to be a typo. Most of the cities on this poll couldn't come up with 50k employees. Amazon would have to be a horribly bloated and inefficient company to employ 50,000 people at its (2nd) headquarters. And 8 million square feet? What exactly are they building?
 
Old 09-07-2017, 03:32 PM
 
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50,000 employees has to be a typo. Most of the cities on this poll couldn't come up with 50k employees. Amazon would have to be a horribly bloated and inefficient company to employ 50,000 people at its (2nd) headquarters. And 8 million square feet? What exactly are they building?
You realize Amazon is a tech company, right? They have armies of devs and ops people. They're also a television network.
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