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View Poll Results: Where?
New York City 16 3.10%
Greater Boston 32 6.20%
Philly 38 7.36%
DC/N. Virginia 50 9.69%
Raleigh/NC Research Triangle 32 6.20%
Austin 48 9.30%
San Francisco/Bay Area/Silicon Valley 13 2.52%
Baltimore 11 2.13%
Toronto 33 6.40%
Pittsburgh 35 6.78%
Chicago 99 19.19%
Atlanta 109 21.12%
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Old 09-24-2017, 12:29 PM
 
Location: BC Canada
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One thing that is pertinent is what kind of impact Amazon itself wants to have on the host city.

If Amazon wants to be in city where it is one of many big corporations then NYC, Toronto, Chicago, Atlanta, Detroit {not that I think it had any chance to begin with}and Dallas are obviously the front runners. It would also probably wipe out Boston due to it's huge academic institutions and Washington due to the overwhelming presence of government and Ottawa as well. Philly and Montreal sort of middle of the impact.

If, however, it wants to be a very dominant player in the city where when one thinks of the particular city and wants Amazon automatically to be the one of the first things they think of, then that really helps some of the smaller centers. There is a certain cache of being THE company that helped transform a city and also gives Amazon huge sway with the money and political power that comes with it.

To me that narrows things down to 4 primary contenders..........Minni/SP, Denver, Cleveland, and Pittsburgh. I still think Amazon is looking for n Eastern time zone which brings things down to 2 main contenders...........Cleveland and Pittsburgh. India/Nash/Cinn/Col/Ral/Char/Aust have almost no urban transit which Amazon stressed.

If Amazon is looking for a major centre with other main industries then I think it's down to Bos/Tor/Phil/Wash, and possibly Chicago. If it wants however to be in a centre where it can be transformative and have heavy civic influence {and the money and political influence that comes with it} then I think it's down to Cleve/Pitts and my vote goes to Cleveland.

It's not just about who checks the most boxes but also how much Amazon itself wants to effect the city.

 
Old 09-25-2017, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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True. I am wrong about that. Also NYC. But in these two instances, the tax rates and COL arenít as attractive as the PA/NJ/DE package.
Don't think COL is a factor.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Center City
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Don't think COL is a factor.
Why do you see it that way? Locations with lower COL offer Amazon the opportunity to pay less for their new digs, as well as a lower payroll.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 05:00 PM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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Don't think COL is a factor.
Amazon's initial press release emphatically said that it was.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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Amazon's initial press release emphatically said that it was.
In that case, congrats to you DFW because most of the cities mentioned are expensive as hell.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 07:09 PM
 
Location: 352
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Why do you see it that way? Locations with lower COL offer Amazon the opportunity to pay less for their new digs, as well as a lower payroll.
They said theyd offer 50,000 jobs with an average of 6 figure salaries, so it seems no matter where they go, they're gonna be paying out a lot of money. COL is a factor, but I think people are too focused on home and rent prices. I feel Amazon wants cheaper office space and land more so than cheaper homes for employees.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 07:29 PM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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They said theyd offer 50,000 jobs with an average of 6 figure salaries, so it seems no matter where they go, they're gonna be paying out a lot of money. COL is a factor, but I think people are too focused on home and rent prices. I feel Amazon wants cheaper office space and land more so than cheaper homes for employees.

"Please include information on your community with respect to daily living, recreational
opportunities, diversity of housing options, availability of housing near potential sites for HQ2,
and pricing
, among other information. Please also include relevant crime data and cost of living
data.
"

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....516043504_.pdf
 
Old 09-25-2017, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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"Please include information on your community with respect to daily living, recreational
opportunities, diversity of housing options, availability of housing near potential sites for HQ2,
and pricing
, among other information. Please also include relevant crime data and cost of living
data.
"

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....516043504_.pdf
Well ok, they said we'd like to see COL, crime, and housing data. That's pretty normal right, that's a complete picture. It's not like they said your COL index has to be below 100.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 08:48 PM
 
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One thing that is pertinent is what kind of impact Amazon itself wants to have on the host city.

If Amazon wants to be in city where it is one of many big corporations then NYC, Toronto, Chicago, Atlanta, Detroit {not that I think it had any chance to begin with}and Dallas are obviously the front runners. It would also probably wipe out Boston due to it's huge academic institutions and Washington due to the overwhelming presence of government and Ottawa as well. Philly and Montreal sort of middle of the impact.

If, however, it wants to be a very dominant player in the city where when one thinks of the particular city and wants Amazon automatically to be the one of the first things they think of, then that really helps some of the smaller centers. There is a certain cache of being THE company that helped transform a city and also gives Amazon huge sway with the money and political power that comes with it.

To me that narrows things down to 4 primary contenders..........Minni/SP, Denver, Cleveland, and Pittsburgh. I still think Amazon is looking for n Eastern time zone which brings things down to 2 main contenders...........Cleveland and Pittsburgh. India/Nash/Cinn/Col/Ral/Char/Aust have almost no urban transit which Amazon stressed.

If Amazon is looking for a major centre with other main industries then I think it's down to Bos/Tor/Phil/Wash, and possibly Chicago. If it wants however to be in a centre where it can be transformative and have heavy civic influence {and the money and political influence that comes with it} then I think it's down to Cleve/Pitts and my vote goes to Cleveland.

It's not just about who checks the most boxes but also how much Amazon itself wants to effect the city.
I think Baltimore has a real chance, also not very much mentioned but I think Amazon does want to be on the water if HQ2 is supposed to be an equal to HQ1 in Seattle.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 08:51 PM
 
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"Please include information on your community with respect to daily living, recreational
opportunities, diversity of housing options, availability of housing near potential sites for HQ2,
and pricing
, among other information. Please also include relevant crime data and cost of living
data.
"

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....516043504_.pdf
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Well ok, they said we'd like to see COL, crime, and housing data. That's pretty normal right, that's a complete picture. It's not like they said your COL index has to be below 100.
Interesting talking about "crime" and "safe neighborhoods" is against the law for real estate agents afaik.
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