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View Poll Results: Where?
New York City 16 3.10%
Greater Boston 32 6.20%
Philly 38 7.36%
DC/N. Virginia 50 9.69%
Raleigh/NC Research Triangle 32 6.20%
Austin 48 9.30%
San Francisco/Bay Area/Silicon Valley 13 2.52%
Baltimore 11 2.13%
Toronto 33 6.40%
Pittsburgh 35 6.78%
Chicago 99 19.19%
Atlanta 109 21.12%
Voters: 516. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-07-2017, 04:12 PM
 
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You realize Amazon is a tech company, right? They have armies of devs and ops people. They're also a television network.
OMG I thought it was just a company that sold paper back books thorough the mail!

I understand that Amazon is a huge company. 50k people at your second "headquarters" sounds absurd though. 3 million people work for Walmart. You won't find them in Bentonville though.

 
Old 09-07-2017, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles-Houston-DFW
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A lot of cities pitching for Amazon headquarters right now that 38 billion dollars in local economy. Thousands of high paying jobs and regular jobs
Definitely. 50,000 high paying jobs plus the services that those people would need.

Would be a boon for any metro area, especially a smaller one like Austin (if they choose it).
 
Old 09-07-2017, 04:39 PM
 
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The RFP from Amazon to cities include the below:
https://qz.com/1071832/amazons-hq2-w...-headquarters/
The e-commerce and logistics giant is obsessed with the transportation options. It’s evaluating prospective metro areas on eight specific criteria:

1. Site/building. Amazon is looking for existing buildings of at least 500,000 square feet and total site space of up to 8 million sq ft. It would like the site to be within 30 miles of a population center and within 45 minutes of an international airport. It prefers metro areas with more than 1 million people. Its Seattle headquarters includes 33 buildings totaling 8.1 million sq ft.

2. Capital and operating costs. Amazon is prioritizing “stable and business-friendly regulations and tax structure” in its considerations. The company is seeking out incentives from state and local governments “to offset initial capital outlay and ongoing operational costs.” At its Seattle headquarters, Amazon says it invested $3.7 billion in buildings and infrastructure from 2010 to 2017, and spent another $1.4 billion on utilities and maintenance.

3. Incentives. The company is asking applicants to outline the specific types of incentives they could offer, such as tax credits and relocation grants, as well calculations on the amount of total incentives that could be provided. “The initial and ongoing cost of doing business are critical decision drivers,” the RFP states.

4. Labor force. Hiring 50,000 skilled workers is no easy task, and Amazon wants to make sure its new headquarters is in an area with a readily available pool of talent. The company is prioritizing sites with a “strong university system.” It’s asked cities to provide a list of universities and community colleges with “relevant degrees” plus the number of students to graduate with those degrees over the past three years. Amazon also wants information on computer-science programs in the local and regional K-12 education system.

5. Logistics. Amazon is first and foremost a master of logistics, so it should come as no surprise that the company cares a lot about transportation. Amazon wants on-site access to mass transit—train, subway, or bus—and to be no more than one or two miles from major highways and connecting roads. It wants to be within 45 minutes of an international airport with daily direct flights to Seattle, New York, the San Francisco Bay area, and Washington DC. The company is also asking applicants to identify “all transit options, including bike lanes and pedestrian access” for the proposed site and to rank traffic congestion during peak commuting hours.

6. Time to operations. To begin construction as soon as possible, Amazon wants an outline of the permitting process and approximate timetable ahead of “Phase 1” of the building process—the first 500,000 to 1 million sq ft, for an investment of $300 million to $600 million.

7. Cultural community fit. Like any tech company, Amazon cares about “culture fit.” It defines this as a diverse population, strong higher-education system, and local government that is “eager and willing to work with the company.” Amazon is asking cities to “demonstrate characteristics of this” in their responses. “We encourage testimonials from other large companies,” it adds.

8. Community/quality of life. The new headquarters should be in a place where people want to live. Amazon is interested in daily living and recreational opportunities for people in each proposed metro area. It is also requesting information about housing prices and availability, general cost of living, and crime statistics.
Just requoting Amazons wishlist... mass transit wants alone put many cities off the list. They also want easy access to SF, NYC, DC and Seattle including a liberal enviornment.
 
Old 09-07-2017, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Washington State desert
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"bike lanes, pedestrian access"...

This says a lot about who Amazon is.
 
Old 09-07-2017, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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Call me biased but...

Schuylkill Yards in Philadelphia is a NO BRAINER for Amazon...

Schuylkill Yards - Gallery
In the RFP it says that Amazon is looking for existing space. They don't want a rendering, they want a building that is already there.
 
Old 09-07-2017, 04:46 PM
 
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The logistics of many of these cities would likely knock them out of candidacy. The likes of Nashville, Charlotte, Raleigh, Austin and other mid-sized cities do not have the infrastructure to support a massive development like this. Wherever Amazon hopes to build, it will probably be in a metro as large as, if not larger than, Seattle.

Boston, Atlanta, DC, Toronto, New York, Chicago, and Dallas seem like the obvious candidates. Philadelphia and Detroit are dark horses.
If that were the case why would they open it to metros/urban areas over 1million? They aren't talking about a massive distribution center, logistics doesn't have that much to do with it or they'd only open it to sexy cities. Any city with available land in the suburbs or even exurbs could absorb something like this. People are making a lot of assumptions in this thread that go counter intuitive to the press release.

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50,000 employees has to be a typo. Most of the cities on this poll couldn't come up with 50k employees. Amazon would have to be a horribly bloated and inefficient company to employ 50,000 people at its (2nd) headquarters. And 8 million square feet? What exactly are they building?
We are talking about a build out over the course of years, likely a decade. We aren't talking 50,000 people and 8 million square feet immediately. There'd be time to grow the workforce to absorb those needs, which is why a smaller metro could handle it. Much like some of the major data centers that have been developed over the last decade, they are still building to reach their planned sizes.
 
Old 09-07-2017, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Point Loma, San Diego, CA
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No. Not a chance. The cost of doing business is way too high, as evidenced by the continued exodus of companies from that state. And, despite its gaudy sales numbers, Amazon runs on razor-thin margins.

In truth, Amazon will likely seek a metro that enjoys the right balance of amenities and reasonably priced labor, as well as centrally-located distribution.
This sounds a lot like Pittsburgh.
 
Old 09-07-2017, 04:47 PM
 
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In the RFP it says that Amazon is looking for existing space. They don't want a rendering, they want a building that is already there.
Show me anywhere in this country where 8 million square feet is just chilling waiting to be filled.
 
Old 09-07-2017, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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"bike lanes, pedestrian access"...

This says a lot about who Amazon is.
They are looking for a city that is like Seattle but isn't Seattle. Honestly this proposal has Minneapolis written all over it. The biggest issue is that Minneapolis has acute labor shortages and it would be hard for Amazon to find 50,000 people locally. I also wouldn't be surprised if Pittsburgh gets it.
 
Old 09-07-2017, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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Show me anywhere in this country where 8 million square feet is just chilling waiting to be filled.
They are looking for 500,000 sq ft of existing space with the potential to build up to 8 million. Does Schuylkill Yards have 500,000 sq ft of existing space?
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