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View Poll Results: Where?
New York City 16 3.10%
Greater Boston 32 6.20%
Philly 38 7.36%
DC/N. Virginia 50 9.69%
Raleigh/NC Research Triangle 32 6.20%
Austin 48 9.30%
San Francisco/Bay Area/Silicon Valley 13 2.52%
Baltimore 11 2.13%
Toronto 33 6.40%
Pittsburgh 35 6.78%
Chicago 99 19.19%
Atlanta 109 21.12%
Voters: 516. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-26-2017, 08:29 PM
 
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I agree. A lot of diverse housing options (as Amazon will hire a diverse group), and the chance to make a mark in a major US city. They could be a catalyst in Philly's rebirth.
Though you are positive on Philly. They see their city has been reborn and ARRRIVED already..... Sill ongoing but ..... Just saying.

 
Old 09-26-2017, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Center City
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Lot of youngsters will do it just for the experience. There is just nothing like living in NYC. Now, I wouldn't do it at 30, but in your 20s, no kids? Maybe.
Doesn't seem a particularly compelling argument for Amazon setting up shop there. Seems they’d be constantly restaffing. Companies aren’t interested in being a revolving door of 20-somethings as employees.
 
Old 09-26-2017, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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Though you are positive on Philly. They see their city has been reborn and ARRRIVED already..... Sill ongoing but ..... Just saying.
Philly is doing just fine.


Where else in the USA besides Manhattan will you find a defined urban mass like this? South Philly with a 35 K ppsq.mi. density. Thats 2x the population density you will find in SF or Bos.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4353/...9cb3171b_h.jpg

And if you want nice bucolic suburbia ? Philly has that as well.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7402/2...6209b198_b.jpg

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Old 09-26-2017, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Doesn't seem a particularly compelling argument for Amazon setting up shop there. Seems they’d be constantly restaffing. Companies aren’t interested in being a revolving door of 20-somethings as employees.
Actually tech companies do almost exactly that. They will hire the best and brightest at high initial salaries, then work them hard knowing they won't stay around that long to accumulate big salaries from raises. Attrition takes care of most of it. Some will move around and do it a few times -- which is also just fine by these companies. Less training required. Amazon, Google, Facebook, etc. When you've worked for one before you usually fit right in at the other.

Old article, but probably still the case -- Ranking America's Biggest Companies By Turnover Rate

It's not a bad gig, they are good jobs, but it's not like it used to be. Perhaps IBM and Apple are a bit more traditional.
 
Old 09-26-2017, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Downtown & Brooklyn!
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25 year olds making 60k a year in NYC likely share rooms. Part of that lifestyle.
I think that a 25 year old making $60K in NYC could easily find their own studio somewhere. You're not going to find anything fancy, but it's certainly doable.
 
Old 09-27-2017, 06:41 AM
 
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Philly is doing just fine skippy.

Where else in the USA besides Manhattan will you find a defined urban mass like this? South Philly with a 35 K ppsq.mi. density. Thats 2x the population density you will find in SF or Bos.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4353/...9cb3171b_h.jpg

And if you want nice bucolic suburbia ? Philly has that as well.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7402/2...6209b198_b.jpg
My post DID SAY PHILLY SEES IT HAS ARRIVED? Or do you disagree skippy?
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Though you are positive on Philly. They see their city has been reborn and ARRRIVED already..... Still ongoing but ..... Just saying.
So I don't know why you got offended? Unless you merely are using me as your soapbox to boast more for Philly as you do.

Philly is TRUELY the Row-home Capital of America. Its low-rise mostly 3-story totally attached rows that most times give each block a Wall-effect. Many blocks are identical but for added awnings, painted brick as examples.

Many streets are very narrow as is its street-grid vs other cities. Philadelphian's usually don't boast being the Row-home Capital of America. But no city comes close to Manhattan as 3-stories is no standard there as Philly. But to other Boroughs Philly can as some have many row-homes too.

My list of cities with both urban cores with live-in attributes for Amazon execs and suburbs had Philly mentioned by me.
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Well vs. Seattle today in COL? Most US major cities will still be cheaper but for its highest end offerings. Also with the most Urban surrounding sought after neighborhoods too... that also are going to be higher then the rest of the city. Amazon will also want higher-end suburban areas within reach. As this is for a Corporate headquarters. They will get great pay and perks.

Some city's have cores with aspects of NYC and even skyscraper living and access to top suburbs too. Such as Chicago (skyscraper living especially), Philly, Boston and DC (minus skyscrapers). Others... degrees less and Sunbelt cities ..... still just showing more signs of some urbanity in their cores. Having Office skyscrapers alone are Not making a FULL Urban core with attributes for a higher-end live-in elite. But getting there more of course, with some having split or multiple cores ..... that may or may not complement each other?

The next great debate will be if and when some finalist cities are mentioned? Then some will say ..... their city can still pull a coup of sorts in the end....
Philly has a Core of neighborhoods of Colonial era row-housing and much still a couple centuries old. Ironically, even Manhattan has newer tenements that long replaced its earlier period of housing and more. Downtown Philly was always residential. It isn't a new adding residential in-core living. It was re-interesting what had degrees of declines over the past.

You boast for Philly and I prefer a Chicago to defend or boast. There has been plenty in this thread listed for that city and the votes show it's seen as a top contender. Boasting on what Amazon is seeking is sufficient in this thread ..... I need not add more on Chicago's behalf. Now it is to await a SHORTLIST by Amazon. To further debate. If you feel you need to give more of Philly's stats? You surely may.
 
Old 09-27-2017, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Center City
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Actually tech companies do almost exactly that. They will hire the best and brightest at high initial salaries, then work them hard knowing they won't stay around that long to accumulate big salaries from raises. Attrition takes care of most of it. Some will move around and do it a few times -- which is also just fine by these companies. Less training required. Amazon, Google, Facebook, etc. When you've worked for one before you usually fit right in at the other.
Two points :

1. You’ve never worked in a large company in any HR recruiting capacity, and
2. Just a portion of Amazon’s jobs will be technical. Amazon is first and foremost a retail company and expNding beyond that:

”Amazon has transitioned into so much more: It's a logistics company that could compete with UPS and the United States Postal Service, a movie studio that's out-bidding Hollywood's old guard for top content, and now, a grocery store chain that's already putting the likes of Kroger on notice.”Amazon, Whole Foods, and what it means to be a tech company - Business Insider
 
Old 09-27-2017, 07:36 AM
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Location: Boston
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South Philly with a 35 K ppsq.mi. density. Thats 2x the population density you will find in SF or Bos.
This isn't really the thread for this, but for what it's worth, this isn't true.
 
Old 09-27-2017, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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Doesn't seem a particularly compelling argument for Amazon setting up shop there. Seems they’d be constantly restaffing. Companies aren’t interested in being a revolving door of 20-somethings as employees.
Amazon is. They have a stack of applicants willing to work there just for the experience. Certain departments used to have a mandatory 20% attrition rate.


Look, you're a great poster, but you gotta get over this NYC thing. It's NYC.
 
Old 09-27-2017, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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I think that a 25 year old making $60K in NYC could easily find their own studio somewhere. You're not going to find anything fancy, but it's certainly doable.
Some may want to be in a trendier part of the city and honestly some may like that lifestyle. They want to make friends.
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