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View Poll Results: If it were economically feasible, would you support Universal Basic Income in the US?
Yes 27 43.55%
No 35 56.45%
Voters: 62. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-14-2017, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Saint Louis, MO
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I would ask, if we don't go with UBI, what is the alternative in the future? Job training and education are nice, but the future will only need so many employees. We will need human services employees (police, teachers, social workers, etc.), as those positions are inherently human-based. We'll still have some engineers, particularly around software and robotics. And I suppose skilled laborers in plumbing, welding, etc. will still be around. Of course the very highly educated, such as doctors and lawyers, do tasks that can't be easily automated. What about the rest of us? I'm an auditor. It pays fine and doesn't appear to be at risk for automation now, but it could be in twenty years. I'm just pointing out that it's not only blue collar work at risk. White collar, professional jobs will also be at risk in the future. The country won't need 100,000,000 robotics engineers and techs to keep the robots churning.
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Old 09-15-2017, 09:04 AM
 
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I would ask, if we don't go with UBI, what is the alternative in the future? Job training and education are nice, but the future will only need so many employees. We will need human services employees (police, teachers, social workers, etc.), as those positions are inherently human-based. We'll still have some engineers, particularly around software and robotics. And I suppose skilled laborers in plumbing, welding, etc. will still be around. Of course the very highly educated, such as doctors and lawyers, do tasks that can't be easily automated. What about the rest of us? I'm an auditor. It pays fine and doesn't appear to be at risk for automation now, but it could be in twenty years. I'm just pointing out that it's not only blue collar work at risk. White collar, professional jobs will also be at risk in the future. The country won't need 100,000,000 robotics engineers and techs to keep the robots churning.
Human capital will be redirected to other areas. We'll need MORE sales/marketing people, MORE engineers. There will be jobs that we haven't even thought of yet. Let the free market work and stop trying to centrally plan everything it doesn't work. We'll end up like China with a massive mis-allocation of resources and everyone living lower standards of living. Jobs will always be needed they aren't going anyway.
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Old 09-16-2017, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Big Bayou
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This hypothetical won't ever work successfully. Where is this money going to come from?
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Old 10-20-2017, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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There was a substantive conference on the subject held this wek in SF.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/gregory...fda214ec7997th

A link to the group that put it together:
The Economic Security Project

Stockton is giving it a go...
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/19/mayo...ach-month.html
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