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Old 09-26-2017, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I consider Chicago and Chicagoland in many ways as being synonomous. The metro area means far more than the city. So obviously I'm in total disageement with you
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Old 09-26-2017, 12:51 PM
 
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I consider Chicago and Chicagoland in many ways as being synonomous. The metro area means far more than the city. So obviously I'm in total disageement with you
Honestly, to me Chicagoland means little more than Chicago sports fandom. I worked in for the Chicago suburbs and I knew people who live their entire lives and I never been to the city more than twice a year. People could name five neighborhoods in the city. I think thereís a very large disconnect between the city and most of its suburbs.
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Old 09-26-2017, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Baltimore - Richmond
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As someone who lives in a state where the cities and counties are independent of each other, I think the metro pop numbers do a much better job at telling the full story of the area, more so than the city prop does. For example, Richmond's city proper population is only around 220,000 but our metro is around 1.2 million. Anyone that has spent significant time here would tell you that the surrounding counties(Henrico and Chesterfield) are essentially Richmond. The counties even have Richmond addresses. When you are driving around the city often times you wont even know that you have left the city limits unless you are familiar with the area, especially heading west. I think that the metro population here gives you a better feel for exactly how many people live in the area.
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Old 09-26-2017, 01:19 PM
 
Location: ATLANTA
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As someone who lives in a state where the cities and counties are independent of each other, I think the metro pop numbers do a much better job at telling the full story of the area, more so than the city prop does. For example, Richmond's city proper population is only around 220,000 but our metro is around 1.2 million. Anyone that has spent significant time here would tell you that the surrounding counties(Henrico and Chesterfield) are essentially Richmond. The counties even have Richmond addresses. When you are driving around the city often times you wont even know that you have left the city limits unless you are familiar with the area, especially heading west. I think that the metro population here gives you a better feel for exactly how many people live in the area.

That is Typical of most Metro Areas that I know of.. In most cases Suburbs tend to spread over multiple Counties
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Old 09-26-2017, 01:22 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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That's what I mean. Some people on this site from the "DC MSA" like to go by CSA, likely because they feel it makes their home seem more important. But then you have people in Baltimore who argue otherwise.
Absolutely!
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Old 09-26-2017, 01:26 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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I don’t think people in DC really go by CSA. Certainly no one in Baltimore dowes. Maybe some people live in between do because they don’t want to admit that they commute from the Baltimore suburbs. DC/Baltimore CSA is popular on this site, because it makes DC seem like a peer of bigger metros.
It happens in the real world as well. In the real world, just like on City Data, Baltimore does not support nor condone it.

It doesn't happen too often though.

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Old 09-26-2017, 01:32 PM
 
Location: ATLANTA
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That's what I mean. Some people on this site from the "DC MSA" like to go by CSA, likely because they feel it makes their home seem more important. But then you have people in Baltimore who argue otherwise.

I don't know why but I just cant seem to get it out of my mind but I just see DC and B-More area as one huge Metropolis.. As much as I try to separate the two... Baltimore being the more Dirtier, Industrial side of the Two and DC being Federal Govt. offices, etc. Everything else to me is just suburbia in between the two in Virginia and Maryland... Don't even mention the Traffic, its a beast driving through the DMV every time I go up that way... I just cant separate them, but again, that's just me...
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Old 09-26-2017, 01:40 PM
 
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I don't know why but I just cant seem to get it out of my mind but I just see DC and B-More area as one huge Metropolis.. As much as I try to separate the two... Baltimore being the more Dirtier, Industrial side of the Two and DC being Federal Govt. offices, etc. Everything else to me is just suburbia in between the two in Virginia and Maryland... Don't even mention the Traffic, its a beast driving through the DMV every time I go up that way... I just cant separate them, but again, that's just me...
If you lived here, you'd be able to separate them. Baltimore is viewed as the city just up the road, not the second primary city of a large MSA.
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Old 09-26-2017, 01:49 PM
 
Location: ATLANTA
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If you lived here, you'd be able to separate them. Baltimore is viewed as the city just up the road, not the second primary city of a large MSA.



I bet, always that way when you do... Same can be said about say City of Chicago vs. Suburbs and say NY/Long Island and Burbs... Or on the flip side of that Miami-Dade all the way up to West Palm Beach.. Driving through feels like one big urban-suburban glob while locals have a totally different mind frame, different set of rules and in many cases see them as Totally different area's all together and some times in there minds seems like different regions as if the other cities are the plague.
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Old 09-26-2017, 01:56 PM
 
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As someone who lives in a state where the cities and counties are independent of each other, I think the metro pop numbers do a much better job at telling the full story of the area, more so than the city prop does. For example, Richmond's city proper population is only around 220,000 but our metro is around 1.2 million. Anyone that has spent significant time here would tell you that the surrounding counties(Henrico and Chesterfield) are essentially Richmond. The counties even have Richmond addresses. When you are driving around the city often times you wont even know that you have left the city limits unless you are familiar with the area, especially heading west. I think that the metro population here gives you a better feel for exactly how many people live in the area.
I know Richmond very well, and I have to say itís complicated. You can make a reasonable argument that all of Henrico County is part of Richmond. I donít think all of Chesterfield County is Richmond, very little of Hanover would qualify, and NOTHING outside of those counties.
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