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Ok I am guessing OP stands for , original poster??
My ideal place:
Medium sized town
All 4 seasons, including snow
Lots of parks and trails
Newish schools and housing
Not too ultra conservative(i respect all views, these just are not mine)
An active culture(runners, mtn bikers, or just all around active people)
Not a large retirement community(where i am now in fl, going out to dinner is like visiting a nursing home)
Not insane housing prices like SF
And anything not similar to Florida
Agreed when I lived in Chicago area people just stayed inside and complained. Kids hardly went outside sledding. Very few people seemed to enjoy winter.
Back now in the Twin Cities - we have ice castles and winter festivals and pond hockey tournaments and ice fishing and cross country skiing and all the lakes are used for ice skating etc... sled hills are packed, people bike all winter long. It's just a different vibe.
Uhhh, not sure where you lived, but in the Chicago suburbs we all sled on the hills, went to the Kris Kringle Markets, ice sculpture carvings, etc. We even did the horse-drawn sleigh rides a few times.
Uhhh, not sure where you lived, but in the Chicago suburbs we all sled on the hills, went to the Kris Kringle Markets, ice sculpture carvings, etc. We even did the horse-drawn sleigh rides a few times.
Sure, most of that is entertainment built to attract crowds. I saw much less outdoor recreation/sport in the Chicago burbs. My wife grew up there and only remembers sledding. Very little ice skating. No one ice skated (unless going down to Millennium Park or indoor rinks).
In general the TCs have a much higher outdoor/sporting participation. It's just more culturally important.
Sure, most of that is entertainment built to attract crowds. I saw much less outdoor recreation/sport in the Chicago burbs. My wife grew up there and only remembers sledding. Very little ice skating. No one ice skated (unless going down to Millennium Park or indoor rinks).
In general the TCs have a much higher outdoor/sporting participation. It's just more culturally important.
Totally agree.
Of course every city has stuff going on in the winter, but it's a completely different league up in the Twin Cities. It was completely normal for your groups of friends to play broom ball, pond hockey, and attendant all the winter festivals. My co workers and I once did bike bar crawl on a below zero day just for fun...I would NEVER be able to get my Chicago friends outside to do something on a cold day. We would always just take a taxi to a bar, and drink inside all day.
People in Minnesota also know how to dress properly for the cold weather. They more than likely have all the gear they need for most activity. Whenever I got my Chicago friends to go sledding, they would show up in a hoodie, jeans, thin cloth gloves, and plastic bags over their tennis shoes.
Ironically and to be fair, Fort Collins HS was mentioned in one of the Cross Country articles I posted earlier. I don't know its reputation academically in comparison, but it does appear to fit. Fort Collins Cross Country
Oh ok...Yes, Fayetteville-Manlius has a nationally ranked girls(and boys) Cross Country program and has been ranked #1 some years. It is also one of the "best" and most affluent school districts in Upstate NY. Very nice area with 2 walkable villages and the Towne Center at Fayetteville has some shopping/restaurants, as well as a very nice YMCA. East Area Family*|*YMCA of Greater Syracuse
I would seriously suggest this area given what you are looking for in terms of criteria and for your children athletically/academically. It is only minutes from hospitals and other medical facilities as well.
Also, that housing development is only minutes from this nice, quaint and walkable lakeside village: https://villageofcazenovia.com
https://www.runnersworld.com/high-sc...-xc-domination (Saratoga Springs is north of Albany and is also a very good school district that is relatively quite affluent and is a nice, walkable small city not too far from the Adirondack Mountains. So, that could be another option.)
Unless there's another level involved with "piece of crap houses" I'm not aware of, a quick search of the I-25 corridor north of Denver up toward Fort Collins turned up over 200 four bedroom homes in the 500K-600K bracket that are either new construction or a couple years old.
Ironically and to be fair, Fort Collins HS was mentioned in one of the Cross Country articles I posted earlier. I don't know its reputation academically in comparison, but it does appear to fit. Fort Collins Cross Country
Not that ironic since I mentioned it well before your cross country link...
Not that ironic since I mentioned it well before your cross country link...
I said that it is ironic, because of the Cross Country aspect that the OP mentioned later in the thread. It looks like they are looking for a good school with a good Cross country program, but it wasn't mentioned until after Fort Collins came up.
I'm not sure if they knew that Fort Collins High has a very good Cross Country program.
Oh ok...Yes, Fayetteville-Manlius has a nationally ranked girls(and boys) Cross Country program and has been ranked #1 some years. It is also one of the "best" and most affluent school districts in Upstate NY. Very nice area with 2 walkable villages and the Towne Center at Fayetteville has some shopping/restaurants, as well as a very nice YMCA. East Area Family*|*YMCA of Greater Syracuse
I would seriously suggest this area given what you are looking for in terms of criteria and for your children athletically/academically. It is only minutes from hospitals and other medical facilities as well.
Also, that housing development is only minutes from this nice, quaint and walkable lakeside village: https://villageofcazenovia.com
https://www.runnersworld.com/high-sc...-xc-domination (Saratoga Springs is north of Albany and is also a very good school district that is relatively quite affluent and is a nice, walkable small city not too far from the Adirondack Mountains. So, that could be another option.)
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