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Old 09-28-2017, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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So I get a check from the government for gas, cars, repairs, insurance, DMV fees? News to me.

Everybody uses the roads.

If there is high demand for the kind of mass transit you want, why doesn't the private sector provide it and why aren't the middle class users like you willing to pay for it.
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Old 09-28-2017, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Denver
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So I get a check from the government for gas, cars, repairs, insurance, DMV fees? News to me.

Everybody uses the roads.

If there is high demand for the kind of mass transit you want, why doesn't the private sector provide it and why aren't the middle class users like you willing to pay for it.
I don't pay taxes? Taxes don't go too fund road projects? Roads are privately built? Why aren't you willing to pay for private roads? News to me.
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Old 09-28-2017, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Everybody uses the roads. I just said that. Most people don't use public mass transit.

I never said you don't pay taxes.
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Old 09-28-2017, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Everybody uses the roads. I just said that. Most people don't use public mass transit.

I never said you don't pay taxes.
So I do pay for taxes that build your roads. That's what I thought.
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Old 09-28-2017, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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So I do pay for taxes that build your roads. That's what I thought.
What is more expensive? The costs associated with driving a car or the costs associated with riding free or low cost public mass transit. You aren't even responding to my point.
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Old 09-28-2017, 04:35 PM
 
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So I get a check from the government for gas, cars, repairs, insurance, DMV fees? News to me.

Everybody uses the roads.

If there is high demand for the kind of mass transit you want, why doesn't the private sector provide it and why aren't the middle class users like you willing to pay for it.
Everybody uses roads - like you said - so why doesn't the private sector provide it? Just paraphrasing.
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Old 09-28-2017, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Because everybody uses roads, but there are toll roads as well. Most people don't use public buses or rail.

What is more expensive, driving a car or using free or low cost public transportation? If driving a car is much more expensive, why is it fair to ask them to pay more taxes to fund improvements to public mass transit for other middle class people.
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Old 09-28-2017, 04:38 PM
 
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Because everybody uses roads, but there are toll roads as well. Most people don't use public buses or rail.
If everyone uses roads > demand must be through the roof > why doesn't private sector provide it?

Hmm.
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Old 09-28-2017, 04:39 PM
 
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Railroad ridership was already in peril at the time of the end of steam and mass move to diesel.

Henry Ford's idea of a "car for the common man", the "I can go anywhere any time on my schedule in my very own car and the government's interstate program, the American's love a fair with cars and the airline industry won out over public transportation in this vast country...

I live 2.5 miles from the nearest bus stop and I'm an "in town lot". I at one time could not afford a car and so I used the extensive bus system when I lived right on a bus route.
But standing bundled up in zero temperature weather for a half hour waiting for one to be sure not to miss it, is something I don't miss.

Much of the "Greater area" is rural and much of the county has more corn fields and dairy cows than people, that doesn't help. Try taking a cow to market on a city bus!

Our infrastructure is used by both public and private individuals and we know it is in disrepair. Private railroads DON'T WANT to invest in public railways, they make more shuffling cargo, and those that DO get shot down by regulations and public disinterest.

If love to hop a train to the big city outside my doorstep, and tgey have been working on it for a decade. May be it will happen maybe not. The. The cost factor, if it's not CHEAPER than the bus,bid rather taje a bus to the city.

And I love having my own vehicle. It's how I grew up living in,a town with No public transport system and out in the country surrounded by dairy, horse and corn field farms.
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Old 09-28-2017, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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If everyone uses roads > demand must be through the roof > why doesn't private sector provide it?

Hmm.
Most people support funding for roads because everybody uses the roads, and there is also already funding for mass transit, despite most people not using it. So when I see middle class people complaining about a free or low cost transportation option, it seems fair to suggest those middle class users pay more for the service if they want to improve it.

Costs should be shared in a equitable way.
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