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Old 10-09-2017, 04:26 PM
 
Location: South Padre Island, TX
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There's no reasons those places should grow coconuts besides the fact that you want them to.
...and I at least took the time to offer factual basis on how that would be the case. Unlike the statement with apples which you tried to pass off as similar.
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Old 10-09-2017, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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...and I at least took the time to offer factual basis on how that would be the case. Unlike the statement with apples which you tried to pass off as similar.
I don't even know what you're talking about at this point.
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Old 10-09-2017, 04:40 PM
 
Location: South Padre Island, TX
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I don't even know what you're talking about at this point.
Of course you don't, you are too busy trying to counter for the sake of it, rather than truly understand what was being said.
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Old 10-09-2017, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Sweet Home Chicago!
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Not to me! I lived in Texas for a year. That's when I realized I needed to have seasons. Living in a place with the same seasons all year long is super boring. Even if you dislike hot/cold weather, I'm sure we all would appreciate a change in climate.

I mean, there must be a reason why people visit Florida in the winter and why people visit cooler climates in the summer.
Agree, I could never live in Florida or any Southern state year round. Ideally, I'd like to do the snowbird thing when I get near retirement. Spend May through December in the Midwest (Chicago or similar) and then head South for January through April. Rinse and repeat as needed.
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Old 10-09-2017, 06:27 PM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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No, the change in seasons is underrated, if anything. In Georgia, I'm still waiting for fall to arrive as we enter mid-October. For me, fall hasn't arrived until I experience a period of at least 14 days without having to turn on the heater or the air conditioner. Last "winter" was pathetic here, so I've ended up having to use the air conditioner in every month so far this calendar year. I hope this changes in November. I'm sick and tired of hot Octobers (2016, 2017), warm Novembers (2011, 2016) and Decembers (2011, 2012, 2015), cold Marches (2013, 2014, 2017), and tornado outbreaks at Christmastime (2012, 2015) or in the dead of winter (2013, 2017).
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Old 10-09-2017, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Of course you don't, you are too busy trying to counter for the sake of it, rather than truly understand what was being said.
Or you're just not making sense. You said that "if it wasn't for the north American landmass and the cold fronts that reach the deep south, Houston, JAX and other cities around that latitude could grow coconuts." (paraphrasing) To which I replied "and what benefit would coconuts offer to those cities?" so I'm not sure where you're going off with "countering" it. I'm not doubting whether or not coconuts would grow, I'm just saying.. why is it a bad thing that they can't grow coconuts like you were implying?
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Old 10-09-2017, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Because he likes coconut milk and wants to make his own?
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Old 10-09-2017, 08:20 PM
 
Location: South Padre Island, TX
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Why is it a bad thing that they can't grow coconuts like you were implying?
A feeling of lack tends to become amplified when the object in question is so close yet so far from attainment. That is the situation with much of the South outside S FL when it comes to coconuts and other tender tropicals: so many of these plants would otherwise be growing profusely through the region, but can't, as even a single 32F/0C can kill them. A region right across the sea from North Africa shouldn't be dealing which such cold.

So many QOL issues of the region would be made easier to solve if the climate were such that these plants could grow:
  • For one, many of these tropical fruits contain great health benefits, which go a long way in preventing ailments like obesity, diabetes, etc that the region has (especially in the poor/rural areas hit the hardest). The potential increase in disease vectors like mosquitoes from the warmer winters would be counteracted by the increased winter dry-season to help limit standing water (since no cold fronts come down to draw up rains from the Gulf); not to mention, there will be even greater variety of bats and other insectivores that keep bug populations in check (since they can range in from the tropics).

  • It also would single-handedly eliminate all disasters in the region except hurricanes and floods. Ice storms, catastrophic tornadoes, hail, etc as seen in places inland in the region would become a thing of the past, because elimination of cold fronts means elimination pf the dynamics that bring such weather ailments.

  • The Southern wilderness gets to be even more bio-diverse than it already is (and also more exotic). Imagine the tropical mangroves of Florida growing in the swamps of Louisiana? Or boa constrictors and spider monkeys deep in the heart of Texas?

It can also be argued that real estate in places like S FL, and SoCal wouldn't be near as expensive, as there would be more land of warm winter weather spread around for the snowbirds to flock to. So less over-the-top condo developments in S FL that create income inequality, and limit the amount of untouched beach.

Essentially, the cold fronts limit the South from reaching its full potential, like making a A- when it could have been an A+. Elimination of those cold fronts can be the one good thing that comes out of anthropogenic global warming.

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Old 10-09-2017, 09:17 PM
 
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I don't find it overrated. I love having four seasons, and sometimes we have them all in one day. I hate humidity and extreme heat, and I am becoming more tolerant of cold as I get older. The only thing I don't like about winter is having to drive when the roads are crappy. I don't mind the cold and snow, though it wouldn't hurt my feelings if the wind would die down a little. We tend to have sunny winters with enough mild days (50-70) to break up the monotony. Snow doesn't usually stick around on the ground for months.

Early spring is not my favorite, since that's when we tend to get our worst snowstorms but it melts quickly. I would rather go outside and walk, hike, run, etc. when it's cold than in the summer. That's what layers are for, and I enjoy the feel of the cold air. I find it invigorating. I love to wear sweaters, sweatshirts, jeans, boots and layers. Fall is my favorite time of the year.

My area is known for its extreme weather, so it's not for the faint of heart. I don't bother having nice things because it WILL get damaged by wind or hail. It's just a matter of when.
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Old 10-10-2017, 01:20 AM
 
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I don’t know if I would go this far and I live further north. Last winter, we really only had 3 heavy snowfalls, with dusting to an inch where I was. Further north got hit pretty hard in the snow belt, but you can go 20 minutes south and have little to no snow. This is the case for other Upstate NY areas, as there may be a heavy snow belt with gradual average snowfall totals that vary. MAP: New England & New York’s Annual Average Snowfall | Unofficial Networks

best climate area in finger lakes region

I tell people to expect/prepare for snow from just after Thanksgiving to mid March, give or take.

Temperatures tend to be in the high teens to low 20’s at the low end on average during those months. For highs on average, it is usually in the 30-40 degree range. https://www.currentresults.com/Weath...th-average.php

https://www.usclimatedata.com/climat...tates/usny2737

https://weatherspark.com/y/22184/Ave...tes-Year-Round
Your "map" shows AVERAGE 50-75" for my area, LAST WINTER was 148", we beat out Syracuse and buffalo' s snowfall totals.. Lake effect snows, whether from the great lakes or finger lakes, gets tiresome when you shovel it frequently. Even 50" of snow is too much! AVERAGE means more than the average as well as below the average.

I still don't like the temps below 20 for weeks on end. Teens and singles or below zero, is for the birds, whom I know don't stick around much for it, either!

I hate hate wearing a heavy parka on top of a sweater on top of shirt on top of a t-shirt, with heavy gloves and scarf and hat and boots Just To Go Out To Get The Mail!!!

You can have your "AVERAGE winter " in upstate N.Y., I'm leaving for warmer pastures as soon as i can.

I'd rather run the vehicle for 5 minutes for the a.c. to kick on, than wait 20 minutes to have heat to drive to work in. At least in summer heat I can open windows. Of course I sometimes have to do that in winter to keep the windows from fogging or frosting while i breath as i drive.
I detest having to desnow the vehicle, or worse yet, deice it by chiseling it off the windows. Pouring hot water on it only adds insult to injury.

I'm 54 with a bad degenerative disc disease, a degenerating spine, and do NOT get pleasure from shoveling snow. The snow blower is not always the answer, either. Heavy wet snow only clogs the chutes.

If I only got a dusting and temps stayed around 30-ish, id be maybe more happy to stay forn WINTER. But -5, 20" of snow, nope, you can have it.

I Hate,Hate hate dealing with falls leaves, whether I mulch them or blow to the curb. They still must be dealt with.

You may not have your bones ache come temps below 50, either. Every bone in my body starts to ache, my feet become ice cubes then too. I can never get them warm!!!
My other half has pagets bone disease, and is awaiting rather impatiently for next annual infusion.


Nope, my OH agrees, and we've decided when my FIL dies, we will snowbirds for a while. And enjoy every winter out of snow country.

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