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Old 11-09-2017, 02:59 PM
 
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^ I don't consider any of those gritty. Can someone circle the grit on the pics? lol
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Old 11-09-2017, 03:33 PM
 
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^ I don't consider any of those gritty. Can someone circle the grit on the pics? lol
Gritty has more than one meaning, and in this thread, it doesn't mean dirt and boarded windows. It means areas of town that aren't sparkling new. It means areas of town that are old, have character, and are desirable, not only to those wanting to buy a refurbished condo, but also to businesses looking to locate in a "hip" part of town. That's what "gritty" means to me, at least. If a city is missing that, it's missing a whole lot.
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Old 11-09-2017, 05:19 PM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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^ I don't consider any of those gritty. Can someone circle the grit on the pics? lol
You can't circle grit because unlike the way it has been defined by some in this thread, grit is not piles of debris or broken windows. It is more like patina. Think of a comfortable pair of worn-in shoes or a used book in good condition.
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Old 11-10-2017, 08:50 AM
 
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I just don't consider old buildings to be the indicator of grit. There are lots of nice old historic areas that are not gritty. If the buildings, streets and neighborhoods are all well kept, well maintained and clean, as in those photos, that's just an older area of the city. There has to be an element of at least some obvious neglect, and it really has to be on more than one building, or small area of a street - it's got to be more pervasive than that. Blight to me could be called extreme grit, but also implies significant abandonment of the neighborhood and usually danger.
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Old 11-10-2017, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Denver
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I just don't consider old buildings to be the indicator of grit. There are lots of nice old historic areas that are not gritty. If the buildings, streets and neighborhoods are all well kept, well maintained and clean, as in those photos, that's just an older area of the city. There has to be an element of at least some obvious neglect, and it really has to be on more than one building, or small area of a street - it's got to be more pervasive than that. Blight to me could be called extreme grit, but also implies significant abandonment of the neighborhood and usually danger.
I would agree with this. Some of the examples of grit look like very well kept parts of the city. Grit should be dirtier, or worn.
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Old 11-10-2017, 12:17 PM
 
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I would agree with this. Some of the examples of grit look like very well kept parts of the city. Grit should be dirtier, or worn.
What do you guys think would be better examples of grit?
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Old 11-10-2017, 04:41 PM
 
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What do you guys think would be better examples of grit?
I'm making a very thin distinction here and I could see how one would consider this gritty but I wouldn't: 3100 Magazine St

https://goo.gl/maps/983jLt8NhdM2

There may be gritty buildings here and there but most are all kept, sidewalks have no cracks, no graffiti or tags, no old rusty fixies locked to fences, etc. This is just an old well kept area to me.

This is more like what I see as grit, busted up streets, cracked sidewalks, graffiti and tags, missing bricks in buildings, chipped paint, etc.
2940 Royal St

https://goo.gl/maps/QuRP5E326kD2

St Roch Ave

https://goo.gl/maps/AAZyvCWnJok

This isn't as gritty but more than Magazine. 2098 Chartres St

https://goo.gl/maps/SJPM7yMPxvy
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Old 11-10-2017, 06:18 PM
 
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I just don't consider old buildings to be the indicator of grit. There are lots of nice old historic areas that are not gritty. If the buildings, streets and neighborhoods are all well kept, well maintained and clean, as in those photos, that's just an older area of the city. There has to be an element of at least some obvious neglect, and it really has to be on more than one building, or small area of a street - it's got to be more pervasive than that. Blight to me could be called extreme grit, but also implies significant abandonment of the neighborhood and usually danger.
No... You confusing grit with run down

Grit is basically quirks, grit comes from older design Victorian and etc building that age little from decorating and signs etc away from the emptiness feel like the place was just built. Murals and etc that wasn't on the organically. I will be back with more pics

The opposite of grit would be plastic looking.
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Old 11-10-2017, 11:56 PM
 
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I'm making a very thin distinction here and I could see how one would consider this gritty but I wouldn't: 3100 Magazine St

https://goo.gl/maps/983jLt8NhdM2

There may be gritty buildings here and there but most are all kept, sidewalks have no cracks, no graffiti or tags, no old rusty fixies locked to fences, etc. This is just an old well kept area to me.

This is more like what I see as grit, busted up streets, cracked sidewalks, graffiti and tags, missing bricks in buildings, chipped paint, etc.
2940 Royal St

https://goo.gl/maps/QuRP5E326kD2

St Roch Ave

https://goo.gl/maps/AAZyvCWnJok

This isn't as gritty but more than Magazine. 2098 Chartres St

https://goo.gl/maps/SJPM7yMPxvy
Grit does not mean ghetto, what you just show was blighted up areas

A well kept area can still be gritty. Gritty is more about feel of toughness or edgy versus an area the feel more plastic. or formal vs informal.

In a formal setting like work you may talk or dress a certain way, but an informal setting your more relax your feet is up, you talk and dress informal.


Chicago for instance the city of broad shoulders, the toughness you think of the nuts, the bolts, the historic factory. Even if area is revitalize and well kept it's still going give a tougher feeling than a plastic suburb or a generic loft.

A lot of more modern architecture focus more on spacious and simplicity.
tend to be more decorative

Also by Ant


This Glennwood park in Atlanta it's a nice urbanism project, that I think is a good idea and I think or time it will start feel more natural. but because it's a new and develop more together, it's sorta like a giant doll house.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7427/...53caeb46_b.jpg

but Older architectural been around to be customize, decorative, this Old Forth Ward Atlanta this area is mix older and newer buildings, Looking at this you sense this wasn't planned it just happen. The chaos. This whole area use be industrial brownfield warehouses and etc. No matter how many lofts they build the area would be gritty.


https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5778/2...9f51883d_b.jpg

The other day I posted this pic, this is Little 5 points, it's basically an alternative area,

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8624/...75281e6d_b.jpg
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Old 11-13-2017, 11:28 AM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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I recently came across this picture that conveys what I consider to be an aesthetically pleasing example of grittiness.

It is the entrance area to a restaurant somewhere in lower Manhattan. The Bowery, maybe?

<edit: It is Freeman's Restaurant, Lower East Side off of Rivington: Bowery/Chrystie & Stanton/Rivington. Across the street from Loreley Beer Garden.>




Source:https://i.redd.it/m4jh0z85foxz.jpg
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