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Old 10-22-2017, 06:01 PM
 
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So North Carolina isn't strict then. Wasn't that the point?

OP, you wouldn't like the West Coast. I hope.
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Old 10-22-2017, 06:32 PM
 
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So the MD police get your license number and then nail you at the border? Cause they sure can't arrest you in VA. What a waste of taxpayer money. Local cops in VA should harass the heck out of the MD cops for loitering. Can't arrest them, but they sure could be fun hassling them for ID.
Yes, I've heard that the police will do this near the U.S. Highway 301, Potomac river bridge between VA and MD.

To digress off-topic......Washington State residents can also be arrested for buying large items like appliances, in nearby, tax-free Portland Oregon, and bringing them home across the Columbia River into Washington.

The unfortunate cigarette vendor who I was mentioning in NY City, as I recall, was the guy who famously kept crying "I can't breathe, I can't breathe - let me go."
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Old 10-22-2017, 06:59 PM
 
Location: I is where I is
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Although I know the growing trend is very, very anti-smoking, I currently live in a country where there is a lot of freedom to smoke in places like restaurants, on trains, in taxis, in casinos, in restrooms, in shopping malls, etc.

To me, one of the greatest joys in life is cigarette smoking, so this is something I'm really curious about in the US. Whenever I go to the US (mainly Southern California) there are laws banning smoking in workplaces, so I have to go outside to smoke. Even if I'm smoking outside, I get dirty looks and so on for smoking, and it makes me feel like I'm doing something very rude.

Visiting Las Vegas is a bit different. Smoking is fine in casinos and at bars, but there are still many places where one isn't allowed to smoke, like in restaurants and so on.

I'm curious if anyone knows a place in the US where people can still smoke like it's the 1970s or a Tarantino movie. I know there are states where smoking is allowed in restaurants and so on, but I don't know how socially acceptable it is considered in these places, and I don't know how common it would be for places to actually allow their patrons to smoke, even if it's legal for them to.

It's a bit of an odd question, but please, let me know, what's the smoker-friendliest place in the country?

Thanks!
Avoid extreme liberal areas as far as tobacco goes, but you can definitely “substitute” and smoke that Mary J instead in those areas. Basically avoid the West Coast.
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Old 10-22-2017, 07:15 PM
 
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Miami. It has some of the most liberal smoking laws in the USA I know of. Certainly the most liberal for a major city. You can smoke in clubs and bars in Miami. A lot of the restaurants have open sections that allow smoking as well.

I'm with you on nanny state laws. They're ridiculous. It should be up to the establishment - not the government - if they wish to permit smoking inside their building. What's more Californians are quite ridiculous with their anti-smoking zeal. I have a friend who lives half of his time in San Diego and the other half in Geneva, Switzerland. He complains that he is constantly given dirty looks and told "he should quit" when he smokes (tobacco) but yet those same people constantly gush about smoking marijuana.
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Old 10-22-2017, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Washington State desert
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Nevada is perhaps not the best state to judge this topic by. The only reason why smoking is generally considered OK in Nevada (and its casinos) is the correlation between gambling and smoking. This is a proven fact and this is why casinos continue to be smoking areas. It is all about revenue pure and simple. (However, many casinos have designated non-smoking areas, thoug usually pretty tiny compared to the main floor).
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Old 10-23-2017, 06:18 AM
 
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So North Carolina isn't strict then. Wasn't that the point?

OP, you wouldn't like the West Coast. I hope.
The west coast is pretty much the only place in the US I've been. Obviously there are aspects I like about it, but as a smoker, no, it's awful.
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Old 10-23-2017, 06:23 AM
 
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Texas, Mississippi, and Kentucky have pretty lax tobacco laws. Conservative states are more lax than liberal states when it comes to laws regarding health.
From what I've read, most of the major cities in those states have bans, though. Is there any specific place in those states, where it tends to be allowed?
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Old 10-23-2017, 06:34 AM
 
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I remember going somewhere in the Carolina's to a chain restaurant which had a smoking area, but I don't know if that is still in effect.

The Seminole Casino in Florida allows smoking and has a small separate non-smoking smoking section. That is probably due to being on their land as a Sovereign Nation.

Speaking of which, I generally go to a Reservation in NY to purchase. They sell zip loc bag cartons for $10. No stamps on them because they manufacture their own. I have taken 10 cartons back with me in my car from NY to Florida, and to PA. where I know live. BTW, most the plates you see there are from out of state; buy in quantity and bring them home with you.
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Old 10-23-2017, 07:13 AM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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So North Carolina isn't strict then. Wasn't that the point?

OP, you wouldn't like the West Coast. I hope.
NC is actually one of the strictest southern states and the only traditional tobacco producing state to have any sort of statewide ban.

There are 3 categories of smoking ban across the USA.
1. Restaurants
2. Bars
3. Non-Hospitality workplaces.

NC has statewide bans in 1. and 2. but not 3., which I think is due to the cigarette manufacturers having business operations there. This means that the cigarette manufacturers can smoke in their own businesses. While not having a statewide ban in Non-Hospitality Workplaces, nearly all of those workplaces have policies/bans of their own. This is essentially a de facto "ban" on category 3 for the most part across the state. A Californian moving to any of NC's cities today would have a very similar experience on a day to day basis regarding clean indoor air. Even some outdoor spaces face the indoor ban as a roofed area with 3 walls of any kind are also considered to be indoors.
Cities in NC, as agreed upon by their counties, may further restrict smoking.
As I said previously, clubs that are run by their members like fraternal orders and country clubs can also make their own rules but those places are not open to public.

Florida, on the other hand, has a ban in 1. and 3. but not 2. This means that bars and clubs can be smoking as long as there isn't food served. If you are someone who likes to go to bars and clubs, you are far more likely to be exposed to smoking in public places in Florida than they would be in North Carolina. Also, Florida doesn't have the outdoor carve out rule that NC has for some covered areas. Florida municipalities cannot further restrict smoking by law. Of course, business owners may choose to make their business smoke free.
FWIW, Florida only has the ban it has because of a citizens' constitutional ballot measure. It is not because the Florida legislature passed a law that was signed by the governor.
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Old 10-23-2017, 07:19 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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The west coast is pretty much the only place in the US I've been. Obviously there are aspects I like about it, but as a smoker, no, it's awful.
Just smoke out of a jipe or rolled and we'll think it's mary jane and like you
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