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Old 10-27-2017, 05:09 PM
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Location: Ontario
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Somehow I'm thinking West Virginia.

Possibly Virginia too.
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Old 10-28-2017, 10:04 AM
 
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On the flipside, least smoker-friendly...

Most Smoke-Free Metro Areas Nonsmoking Rate**
1. Provo-Orem, Utah 93.5 percent
2. Bethesda-Gaithersburg-Frederick, Md. 89.5 percent
3. Ogden, Utah 89.4 percent
4. Brownsville, Texas 88.2 percent
5. Durham, N.C. 88.0 percent
6. Idaho Falls, Idaho 87.7 percent
7. San Francisco 87.5 percent
8. Burlington, Vt. 87.2 percent
9. Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk, Conn. 86.9 percent
10. Portland, Ore. 86.5 percent
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Old 10-28-2017, 10:11 AM
 
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And the smokiest...

Smokiest Metro Areas Smoking Rate*
1. Huntington, W.Va. 34.4 percent
2. Kingsport-Bristol, Tenn. 30.5 percent
3. Gulfport-Biloxi, Miss. 28.8 percent
4. Greensboro, N.C. 28.3 percent
5. Mobile, Ala. 26.9 percent
6. Casper, Wyo. 26.8 percent
7. Chattanooga, Tenn. 26.5 percent
7. Wilmington, N.C. 26.5 percent
9. Tulsa, Okla. 26.0 percent
10. Hickory, N.C. 25.9 percent
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Old 10-28-2017, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Yakima WA
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North Carolina has a much longer history of almost total Democratic control of government than just that small window of time that Bev Perdue was governor. Go research it before you make a presumption about which party in NC has traditionally run the state. The Republican takeover, like in many other states, was a result of Republican landslide in 2010 and the subsequent redistricting that took place following.
IMO, it was more about the public opinion around smoking in NC that gave the Democrats the political will/air cover to enact the bans at that time. Politicians study the crap out of these sorts of issues and usually don't publicly get behind something until there's a tipping point in constituents' views.
The public would go for it just about everywhere regardless of politics. But Democrat politicians have a far greater history of enacting smoking bans and other anti-smoking legislation.
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Old 10-28-2017, 03:55 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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On the flipside, least smoker-friendly...

Most Smoke-Free Metro Areas Nonsmoking Rate**
1. Provo-Orem, Utah 93.5 percent
2. Bethesda-Gaithersburg-Frederick, Md. 89.5 percent
3. Ogden, Utah 89.4 percent
4. Brownsville, Texas 88.2 percent
5. Durham, N.C. 88.0 percent
6. Idaho Falls, Idaho 87.7 percent
7. San Francisco 87.5 percent
8. Burlington, Vt. 87.2 percent
9. Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk, Conn. 86.9 percent
10. Portland, Ore. 86.5 percent
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And the smokiest...

Smokiest Metro Areas Smoking Rate*
1. Huntington, W.Va. 34.4 percent
2. Kingsport-Bristol, Tenn. 30.5 percent
3. Gulfport-Biloxi, Miss. 28.8 percent
4. Greensboro, N.C. 28.3 percent
5. Mobile, Ala. 26.9 percent
6. Casper, Wyo. 26.8 percent
7. Chattanooga, Tenn. 26.5 percent
7. Wilmington, N.C. 26.5 percent
9. Tulsa, Okla. 26.0 percent
10. Hickory, N.C. 25.9 percent
Interesting. These two metros basically sit side by side. Also interesting is that Durham used to be a huge tobacco town.
FWIW, smoking rates of citizens and where people are allowed to smoke are two different things.
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Old 10-28-2017, 03:56 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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The public would go for it just about everywhere regardless of politics. But Democrat politicians have a far greater history of enacting smoking bans and other anti-smoking legislation.
Except, perhaps, in places where the Mormons make up the power center of a Republican government.
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Old 10-29-2017, 03:24 AM
 
Location: Yakima WA
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Except, perhaps, in places where the Mormons make up the power center of a Republican government.
I suppose but look at the #2 per capita Mormon state Idaho...they don't even have a statewide smoking ban. Mormons aren't especially into telling non-Mormons how to behave.

I lived in Las Vegas when Nevada passed a bar smoking ban. Most smokers there actually thought the Mormons were behind it which was totally wrong. They don't understand there are professional anti-smoking lobbyists who work to get smoking banned everywhere they can and they pretty much got their way as there are few holdouts. I don't even smoke yet knew more about this than the smokers blaming the Mormons.

It was put on the ballot in Nevada and won. Comprehensive smoking bans always win at the ballot even if most voters do not go to bars regardless of smoking. Anyway when Nevada elected a Republican governor in 2010 one of the first things he did was repeal the bar smoking ban.
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Old 10-29-2017, 01:44 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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Anyway when Nevada elected a Republican governor in 2010 one of the first things he did was repeal the bar smoking ban.
That was done for the gambling industry.

NV has too much riding on that industry to lose its national and international gambling status.
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Old 10-29-2017, 01:47 PM
 
Location: USA
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I am not a smoker of anything, nor do I agree with laws against Marijuana. It should be up to the individual whether they want to smoke cigs, cigars, marijuana, etc. That being said, it really confuses me how the Tobacco Industry has been demonized nationwide, yet Pot is getting legalized by state after state. So it is OK to smoke Pot, but not tobacco?
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Old 10-29-2017, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Land of Ill Noise
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Anyway when Nevada elected a Republican governor in 2010 one of the first things he did was repeal the bar smoking ban.
It was amended then, since a lot of Nevada bars did not like the requirement that to have smoking, they couldn't serve food. Since that amendment, bars that permit smoking can now have an open kitchen. Before that, they had to(per the partial state smoking ban amendment that passed about 10 years ago) choose between either serving food BUT not being able to allow smoking(corrected my original typo here), or serving no food and allowing smoking. Some bars got around this by walling off half of their space and operating that as a non-smoking restaurant or bar, and the bar half permitting smoking did BYO food from the other half of the place that was no smoking. Which I think is an improvement, to me. Since I'm definitely of the belief, that adult only bars should be able to make that call on permitting smoking or not, even if they want to allow smoking throughout.
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