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Old 10-23-2017, 10:28 AM
 
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I thought I'd take a shot at classifying cities based on how well they exemplify true tri-state centers.

Here's what I've came up with so far.

Tier 1 (Cities above 100k that border two other states within their city limits

DC
Memphis

Tier 2 (Cities above 100k that border two other states within their metro area

NYC
Chicago
Philly
Cincinnati
Sioux Falls, SD
Chattanooga
Evansville

Tier 3 (Cities above 100k whose metros are within proximity to two other states

Baltimore
Las Vegas
Pittsburgh
Shreveport


Would you add any cities to these lists? Would you remove any? Would you move any around?
Boston should be added to tier 3 under your definition. But I'm not really getting the significance of having a tri state area.
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Old 10-23-2017, 11:29 AM
 
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Mobile would fit in TC's definition of Tier 3
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Old 10-23-2017, 11:53 AM
 
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Wilmington, DE is a weird case in this. It's nominally under <100k city limits population, though it would be difficult to argue that Evansville, IN is a more important locality due to its more expansive city limits. Wilmington's direct commuter area extends into four states, but the whole shebang is combined metro-wise with Philadelphia.

Albany, NY was historically above 100k city limits (now just below), and its hinterland includes parts of southwestern VT and far western MA so it should be a Tier 3.

Providence, RI (well over 100k city limits) has a metro area exceeding the population of its host state and borders a third state, so it should count as Tier 2.
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Old 10-23-2017, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Wilmington, DE is a weird case in this. It's nominally under <100k city limits population, though it would be difficult to argue that Evansville, IN is a more important locality due to its more expansive city limits. Wilmington's direct commuter area extends into four states, but the whole shebang is combined metro-wise with Philadelphia.

Albany, NY was historically above 100k city limits (now just below), and its hinterland includes parts of southwestern VT and far western MA so it should be a Tier 3.

Providence, RI (well over 100k city limits) has a metro area exceeding the population of its host state and borders a third state, so it should count as Tier 2.
Wilmington is actually more of a 4 state metro than even Philadelphia, since Cecil County, MD interacts/commutes far more with Delaware than Pennsylvania. Elkton, MD is a bedroom community of Newark, the Brandywine Valley is shared with PA, and blue collar South Jersey areas like Pennsville are right across the river. Never been to Evansville, but judging by GDP statistics, it doesn't seem close.

Also, Providence's metro only extends between Rhode Island and Massachusetts. CT borders the metro, but is not a part of it.
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Old 10-24-2017, 08:49 AM
 
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The OP named Chattanooga as an example, its metro definition likewise borders but does not extend into Alabama.
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Old 10-24-2017, 08:54 AM
 
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Cumberland, MD should get an honorable mention, though far below 100k city limits. Its city water supply is in PA (through a shell company), and municipal airport in WV (now through a bi-state authority).
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Old 10-27-2017, 12:42 PM
 
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The word "Tri state" is mostly referred to the NYC area. Pennsylvania shouldn't be part of it because it's well over 2 hours away... whereas NJ and CT have some core suburbs to NYC.

DC doesn't really count because it's an independent city that borders 2 states..not a city within a state. NYC is in an actual state with 2 states within it's metro... Connecticut and New Jersey...

So my picks...

NYC metro - New York, Connecticut, New Jersey, Pennsylvania
Boston metro - Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New Hampshire
Philadelphia metro - Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland

Basically, CT, NJ and MD are the three metro suburban states of the nation, lol.
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Old 10-27-2017, 12:55 PM
 
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The word "Tri state" is mostly referred to the NYC area. Pennsylvania shouldn't be part of it because it's well over 2 hours away... whereas NJ and CT have some core suburbs to NYC.

DC doesn't really count because it's an independent city that borders 2 states..not a city within a state. NYC is in an actual state with 2 states within it's metro... Connecticut and New Jersey...

So my picks...

NYC metro - New York, Connecticut, New Jersey, Pennsylvania
Boston metro - Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New Hampshire
Philadelphia metro - Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland

Basically, CT, NJ and MD are the three metro suburban states of the nation, lol.

Tri state also gets used for describing Philly locally with PA/NJ/DE


MD is really not any significance of the Philly area at all just as PA is really not for NY
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Old 10-27-2017, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Tri state also gets used for describing Philly locally with PA/NJ/DE


MD is really not any significance of the Philly area at all just as PA is really not for NY
Yup. There is the Tri-State Mall in Claymont less than a mile from the PA/DE line, and a stone's throw away to New Jersey over the Delaware River. Cecil County, MD is the only portion of Maryland that is part of the Delaware Valley, and it is culturally very much rural "Maryland" (Ravens, Orioles, Old Bay, Republican, slower vibe, etc.). The only reason it's a part of the MSA is because there is decent enough exchange between Elkton and Newark (and their suburbs).
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