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Old 11-01-2017, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Baltimore - Richmond
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Richmond VA could use light rail
I agree. How do you feel about the BRT they are currently constructing?
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Old 11-01-2017, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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Was there a couple years ago, and the buses in WPB/PB ran very infrequently then. Maybe they've improved in the last 4-5 years? Hope so.

And yes, both WPB and FtL have at least one Tri-Rail stop, though none are conveniently located to city center. But they don't have any kind of light rail subway-like system. Miami does, and Tampa has an extremely limited streetcar line, but best I can remember that's it for subway-type systems in Florida.

Edit: Brightline looks interesting, and very badly needed. Glad that's gong to happen.

Jacksonville has an elevated, automated people mover. I rode it once, just for the experience. I can't see how it could have the slightest impact on traffic mitigation or anything; it felt more like an amusement park ride than anything else. Ditto for the Tampa streetcar, which I also rode one time, just to do it.

Of all Florida cities, only Miami has any real rail transit that is anything more than a glorified theme-park ride. South Florida also has commuter rail, as does Orlando.

I agree that Brightline looks promising, though it would have been better if it had followed the Florida Turnpike inland between West Palm Beach and Orlando instead of following I-95 up to Cocoa and then turning inland. Or, alternately, they should add a stop at Cocoa to draw some more ridership from that area. But even so, it still seems like it's got real potential, and I hope it succeeds.

As for Palm Tran, the route that runs by where I used to live operates every 20 minutes during weekdays and every 30 minutes Saturdays and Sundays, going as late as 10:00 p.m. (6:00 on Sundays). I would have killed for that level of service when I lived there!
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Old 11-01-2017, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Denver
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Why are people mentioning Cincinnati when it has light rail?
I say Louisville and Richmond.
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Old 11-01-2017, 09:01 AM
 
Location: ATLANTA
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Why are people mentioning Cincinnati when it has light rail?
I say Louisville and Richmond.
Yeah, I forgot about Louisville, it is in need of a Light rail system for sure, one that connect South Indiana to the mix. As far as Cincinnati is concerned, it's really just a Street Car system.
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Old 11-01-2017, 09:17 AM
 
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Why are people mentioning Cincinnati when it has light rail?
I say Louisville and Richmond.
Cincinnati does not have light rail. It has one of those little streetcars that go almost nowhere around in a tight circle, but is not used for commuting or serious tranportation. Basically a whimsical tourist type thing.
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Old 11-01-2017, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Windsor Ontario/Colchester Ontario
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Cincinnati does not have light rail. It has one of those little streetcars that go almost nowhere around in a tight circle, but is not used for commuting or serious tranportation. Basically a whimsical tourist type thing.
Much like Detroit's People Mover and new Q line street car!
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Old 11-01-2017, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Denver
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Cincinnati does not have light rail. It has one of those little streetcars that go almost nowhere around in a tight circle, but is not used for commuting or serious tranportation. Basically a whimsical tourist type thing.
I'm confused. What's the difference between a streetcar and lightrail in this case? All the light rail systems I've seen are visually the same as what Cincinnati has.
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Old 11-01-2017, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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I'm confused. What's the difference between a streetcar and lightrail in this case? All the light rail systems I've seen are visually the same as what Cincinnati has.
Light rail has its own dedicated right of way, so it doesn't have to stop at traffic signals and the like (except when the rail line actually crosses a street, which should be rare). A streetcar is right on the road, which means it by nature can't go faster than a bus (and unlike a bus, can't change its route if it's obstructed).
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Old 11-01-2017, 11:03 AM
 
Location: SW Virginia
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What are the most Urban US Cities that don't have a Subway/HRT or Light rail Transit system but should have or in desperate need of one? It's one City that comes in the Number 1 Spot for this and in my opinion was a major injustice the City never constructed one. "Detroit" I'm sure there are other cities that come to mind as well.
*Raleigh NC
*Columbus OH
*Memphis, TN
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Old 11-01-2017, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Denver
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Light rail has its own dedicated right of way, so it doesn't have to stop at traffic signals and the like (except when the rail line actually crosses a street, which should be rare). A streetcar is right on the road, which means it by nature can't go faster than a bus (and unlike a bus, can't change its route if it's obstructed).
The main two streetcar lines here have their own right of way, yet are all subject to street traffic. We call them streetcars as a cultural thing but I've always referred to them as light rail. As far as I know, they are both at grade and are structurally the same with the same class of train cars being used.

I've always used the two as the sane thing. Here's a good read for people like me Streetcars vs Light Rail ... Is There a Difference? — Human Transit
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