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And I believe the answer is the San Jose metro. There is no real down time from work imo having worked there for sone years now.
One of the main reasons I live in Oakland is to get away from that all tech, 24/7 mentality in the valley. I dont need to be working on 3 side projects and 2 start ups apart from my actual profession-and almost everyone I know is doing that.
From what I’ve seen of Silicon Valley and the folks I’ve met from there it does seem as though SJ and environs is where you’d most likely to look over at someone’s screen and seeing “All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy” repeated 10,000 times.
From what I’ve seen of Silicon Valley and the folks I’ve met from there it does seem as though SJ and environs is where you’d most likely to look over at someone’s screen and seeing “All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy” repeated 10,000 times.
^^ This
Those mentioning DC clearly haven't spent anytime there as it has a very active bar scene, was just named Restaurant City of The Year for 2016 because of all of the new talent opening restaurants there, and very well attended sports/cultural events.
Not at all. Most 2017 rankings of most fun and/or entertaining cities dont put NY a 'tier or two' above any city actually. SF tends to be in the same tier in most public opinion polls and surveys that I skimmed thru in the past 10 minutes.
I generally feel that any 3 Million+ CSA/MSA provides good to great entertainment, even many smaller are great( NOLA, Vegas, Honolulu immediately come to mind)
I would tend to agree. NYC has incredible nightlife/ stuff to do in general, but I feel like people often overate it as "A tier above everything" when that isn't necessarily true.
NYC might have better nightlife and a later closing time, but there is more to having "stuff to do" than being able to drink in a bar till 4am. The bay area not only has great places to eat and plenty of art but it's proximity to a huge range out outdoors things is a class above NYC (and most of the country) Also, no other metro area is as close to a wine region on par with the Napa Valley.
Some people might find NYC more entertaining to them, but I don't think it's this tier above everything that some people make it out to be unless you are talking about very specific things like tall buildings, fashion, or finance etc.
I would tend to agree. NYC has incredible nightlife/ stuff to do in general, but I feel like people often overate it as "A tier above everything" when that isn't necessarily true.
NYC might have better nightlife and a later closing time, but there is more to having "stuff to do" than being able to drink in a bar till 4am. The bay area not only has great places to eat and plenty of art but it's proximity to a huge range out outdoors things is a class above NYC (and most of the country) Also, no other metro area is as close to a wine region on par with the Napa Valley.
Some people might find NYC more entertaining to them, but I don't think it's this tier above everything that some people make it out to be unless you are talking about very specific things like tall buildings, fashion, or finance etc.
NYC is a few hours away from DC and Boston and plenty to do everywhere in between.. If there's a place that can rival SF, it's NYC.
I would tend to agree. NYC has incredible nightlife/ stuff to do in general, but I feel like people often overate it as "A tier above everything" when that isn't necessarily true.
NYC might have better nightlife and a later closing time, but there is more to having "stuff to do" than being able to drink in a bar till 4am. The bay area not only has great places to eat and plenty of art but it's proximity to a huge range out outdoors things is a class above NYC (and most of the country) Also, no other metro area is as close to a wine region on par with the Napa Valley.
Some people might find NYC more entertaining to them, but I don't think it's this tier above everything that some people make it out to be unless you are talking about very specific things like tall buildings, fashion, or finance etc.
It should be mentioned that NYC is also near a lot of outdoor activities and retreats. The Catskill Mountains, Poconos, Adirondacks, Martha's Vineyard, Cape Cod, Long Island etc and many more. I would say the range of outdoor activities you can do in NYC is exactly the same as you can do in the Bay Area. Now the tall redwoods are cool, obviously Napa valley is better than any vineyard near NYC, and Tahoe (while quite far from the Bay) is world class, still NYC has all the same options.
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DC fits the bill. DC used to have the best Black Nightlife in the country. It's declined a LOT, but it's still better than average. Non-black DC is pretty boring.
Completely your opinion and completely false. DC is a way more playful city than it was even 15 years ago. In fact I'd actually argue what can't you do for play in DC? The city is a 7 day a week functions/galas/bars/lounges/festivals/parties etc city. There are 24hr major casinos now, and multiple large entertainment halls or stadium venues.
Black nightlife has declined in most major cities across the country do to major cities gentrifying, definitely not unique to DC. Even so the DC nightlife scene is so much more diversified now and options for Blacks are still plentiful. H and U streets are amazing nightlife areas now, and still booming.
The best thing about is DC is people who come to the city with that mentality you have and then get here and realize how much fun things there is to do. Honestly the only thing missing is a nearby beach.
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This is based on limited personal experience but interesting personal experience nonetheless.
2 years ago, my company contracted out two projects to an office in NYC and an office in San Francisco - at the same time. I had the job of managing both - at the same time. As a result, of constant flying back and forth and skype calls, I began noticing some WC vs EC cultural differences, especially in the work place.
I could go on and on and it would fill a book but just on "All Work, no Play" I noticed that the people in San Francisco rarely went out. They'd tend to leave the office on time, but then put extra hours from home. People in NYC tended to stay in the office later and rarely take their work home - unless there was a big deadline.
I never really heard of the people in the San Francisco socializing or going out. Sure when I'd come, I'd suggest happy hour etc, but it seemed kind of out of the norm for them and they all seemed eager to leave. In NYC, a few of the people even became good friends and took vacations together, happy hours were constant, and the office (located in the UES of Manhattan) had alcohol.
Overall, I'd say New Yorkers worked hard, and played a bit whereas I did not get that impression for people in San Francisco. Of course, mileage may vary and this is somewhat limited personal experience.
When first reading this thread, my thought was not so much what cities offer the best entertainment/amenities/etc., but rather what cities have the most "live to work" (as opposed to "work to live") attitude.
Completely your opinion and completely false. DC is a way more playful city than it was even 15 years ago. In fact I'd actually argue what can't you do for play in DC? The city is a 7 day a week functions/galas/bars/lounges/festivals/parties etc city. There are 24hr major casinos now, and multiple large entertainment halls or stadium venues.
Black nightlife has declined in most major cities across the country do to major cities gentrifying, definitely not unique to DC. Even so the DC nightlife scene is so much more diversified now and options for Blacks are still plentiful. H and U streets are amazing nightlife areas now, and still booming.
The best thing about is DC is people who come to the city with that mentality you have and then get here and realize how much fun things there is to do. Honestly the only thing missing is a nearby beach.
You know what? I’m going to walk that back. DC has reasonable nightlife offerings. It definitely is no Boston. It HAS improved in recent years. I wasn’t being fair. What I don’t like is DC’s non-black nightlife crowd.
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