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Old 11-19-2017, 12:03 PM
 
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I know one thing, I value the opinions here of people who lived through both vs. someone who was a child when the 20th century ended.
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Old 11-19-2017, 12:14 PM
 
Location: USA
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I was born in 1959, in Philadelphia, but grew up in the burbs. I saw the shift in society as the Baby Boomers came of age in the 60's, but it really accelerated in the 70's. They did not have to go through the Great Depression, and WWII like our parents did, and had a lot GIVEN to them. Thus the luxury to not have to worry so much about the practical, and pragmatic day, to day things, but could think of creating some type of socialist UTOPIA, which of course is neither possible, nor wanted by human beings as it is totally against our nature.

So, go ahead liberal/progressives. Keep destroying the things that made America what people want, and need, and the reasons people want to come here.
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Old 11-19-2017, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Research Triangle Area, NC
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I was born in 1959, in Philadelphia, but grew up in the burbs. I saw the shift in society as the Baby Boomers came of age in the 60's, but it really accelerated in the 70's. They did not have to go through the Great Depression, and WWII like our parents did, and had a lot GIVEN to them. Thus the luxury to not have to worry so much about the practical, and pragmatic day, to day things, but could think of creating some type of socialist UTOPIA, which of course is neither possible, nor wanted by human beings as it is totally against our nature.

So, go ahead liberal/progressives. Keep destroying the things that made America what people want, and need, and the reasons people want to come here.
1. You are a baby boomer

2. I agree; US baby-boomers came of age in one of the most privileged eras of human existence.

3. Millenials came of age with 9/11 and its aftermath, two wars, and the great recession. The bubble of security in "the day to day" and achieving that level of security that boomers enjoyed was long gone by then.
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Old 11-19-2017, 01:20 PM
 
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Personally, I wouldn't want to live in that time period either. As someone who loves to travel, I know that it would have been a lot harder for me to do that back then. My grandma has told me stories about how her family would pull to the side of the highway to eat during long road trips. She didn't know it until she grew a little older, but it was because certain restaurants didn't allow black people to dine in. Her family also had to look through a Rand McNally book in order to see which hotels allowed black people to lodge. Secondly, I'm not sure if I would have been able to successfully obtain a career in my field. I'm getting ready to enter the finance field, and I doubt that I would have been able to find something with a Fortune 500 firm as easily as I can today. Finally, skin color doesn't matter to me when it comes to dating. My last girlfriend was white, as were some romantic partners before and after her. That would have certainly warranted my death, especially in the 1950s-70s. I hate to mention race since I feel like it's so irrelevant to my generation; however, it was much more of a factor back then.
You know me from the Phila. board so you know that I'm black.

All of the long road trips my family went on, when I was a small child in the 50s, were exactly as your grandma told you.

And if you had wanted to marry any of your white girlfriends, prior to the Loving v. Virginia decision in 1967, it would have been illegal in many states.

So again that time is not a place I want to even visit today.
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Old 11-19-2017, 01:38 PM
 
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I was born in 1959, in Philadelphia, but grew up in the burbs. I saw the shift in society as the Baby Boomers came of age in the 60's, but it really accelerated in the 70's. They did not have to go through the Great Depression, and WWII like our parents did, and had a lot GIVEN to them. Thus the luxury to not have to worry so much about the practical, and pragmatic day, to day things, but could think of creating some type of socialist UTOPIA, which of course is neither possible, nor wanted by human beings as it is totally against our nature.

So, go ahead liberal/progressives. Keep destroying the things that made America what people want, and need, and the reasons people want to come here.
Technically you're a Boomer. It almost sounds like you do not consider yourself to be one.
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Old 11-19-2017, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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I was born in 1949 in Philadelphia. Were you in the south growing up? If so do you remember anything about Jim Crow when you were a kid?
No I don’t remember it, you are older than me. I am a gen Xer raised up in the 70s and 80s. I suppose that experience is unique to our age group, coming of age before the digital age and political correctness but after the civil rights turmoil of the 50s and 60s. Maybe when I was raised has something to do with how I see all of those race issues. I sympathize with those black peoples who lived under Jim Crow pre 1950s, totally unfair and in-American things were going on then but when it comes to today’s political correctness and the “race chip” I lose all sympathy and support for that. I find all of that to be un American as well. Maybe what we had when I grew up is what I see as more ideal, a world where racial discrimination was illegal but a world where you did not have social justice warriors screaming at you about political correctness and constantly running down my white ancestors. Today’s world has just become too ugly.
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Old 11-19-2017, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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If you can't express yourself tactfully or correctly in written format; how do you expect readers to take your points seriously? It's not just that rambling rants with bad spelling, grammar, and spacing make you look unintelligent; it's that it makes it mostly unappealing to read. Almost as unappealing as the weak arguments you are trying to make in the first place.

The funniest part is your lash-back is more defensive of your writing style than of the actual counter-points to your assessment of the topic at hand in this thread.
We really need a grammar and spelling forum for people like you, that way you won’t have to struggle with reading my poorly written posts. Maybe y’all can proofread and grade each other

Really the root of this dispute is political. Those of us who see the old days as being better tend to be conservative people. Those seeing today as better are more liberal. I understand debate and the desire to get a one up on an opponent but the whole grammar and spelling police thing is a real pet peeve of mine and I admit I have no tolerance of it. Really I don’t understand it unless your grading papers or something like that. This is not a paper, this is an Internet forum. A great many people do not pay close attention to spelling and grammar and you know that. Do you point out the errors of those you agree with? Something tells me you do not.

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Old 11-19-2017, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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You've somewhat lost me here. I don't believe this older period was better. I do believe many who lived through it tend to only remember the good, but never the bad. Progressives tend to look forward, not backward.

If I understand your point, you think this late 20th century was good, but your generation does not. I don't think one is more true than the other. Change is inevitable, always has been, always will be.

So, sorry, as someone who lived through this so-called "golden" period, I'm not going to drink the "those were the days" kool-aid. Life is different today, but it is better in many ways. And you can't magically bring something back that doesn't exist today.
As one who also lived back then, born in 1946, I wholeheartedly agree. As in any time period, it was good for some, not so much for others. Depends upon one's color, gender and economic position in society.
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Old 11-19-2017, 02:46 PM
 
Location: USA
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911 changed the entire way we think especially of safety. I remember we could leave our car doors unlocked, and we trusted our neighbors by keeping our homes unlocked. I firmly believe in the concept that as our population keeps increasing, so does the percentages of psychos out there that want to do harm. We didn't need to worry about domestic terrorism like we do now. Airport screening, getting into and out of events, etc. It's even gotten to a point, where everywhere I go I think of a way to escape from a mass shooter. I know the likelihood of being involved in a tragedy is slim, but it changes the entire way we interact with large groups of people.
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Old 11-19-2017, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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If you don’t like my grammar spelling or punctuation then do not read it, I simply do not care. This is the internet, not a doctoral theses so I won’t invest the effort to proofread it for those things for your benefit. If I had said things you agreed with you would not have pointed out the grammar issues. Your pointing out of grammar issues does not make your assessment of our society today correct nor does it make mine incorrect. It is however a common tactic used by “progressive” thinkers to demean the opinions of those who espouse conservative beliefs of any kind. Maybe you should take part in a spelling bee, there you will find your zeal for spelling matters and maybe you’ll get a trophy too
The lack of punctuation bugs me, but that's not your problem.
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