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Old 11-21-2017, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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You act like everybody in those cities is a Democrat simply because a majority are Democrats. I've pointed out Huntsville Alabama has a lot of NASA and tech related jobs, and Trump cleaned up there.

Why do Democrats own the poor high crime inner cities if the Democratic party is the home of the educated? It would appear there is no correlation between education and voting for Democratic party.

Why do Democrats use class warfare rhetoric such as 'tax cuts for the rich' if your base is so wealthy?

Why did Trump win the majority of white college educated people?

Why did the south become more conservative and Republican as it became more populated, middle class, and educated, and not racist?

If white racists in the south did switch, why are there no segregation policies in the south now? For example, how did Republicans in SC electing one of two black Senators, Tim Scott, make white racists happy?

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Old 11-21-2017, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Not every voter in rural areas of Tenn are Republican voters, and good chance drug addicts don't even show up to vote. It doesn't sound like you have any evidence that drug addicts are voting heavily for Republican. Drug addicts are a small percentage of the population.

You haven't explained why drugs addicts would be attracted to Trump and/or GOP.
I am not saying that people under the influence of drugs here in Tennessee are attracted to Trump because of the drugs or their levels of drug abuse.

A sizable majority of Tennesseans (especially white Tennesseans) voted for Trump. The more rural you go, the poorer you go in this state (aside from some problem inner-city areas of Nashville and Memphis). The more rural you go, the whiter you go. The more rural you go - in general, the less education the residents have. All of these are strong factors in voting for Trump.

The rural drug addicts in red America don't self-identify as drug addicts. They're going to self-identify as country, redneck, etc. Still, a disproportionate amount of rural Tennesseans are impacted by substance abuse problems than the affluent suburbs of Knoxville or Nashville, for instance.
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Old 11-21-2017, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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You haven't provided any evidence that a significant majority of drug addicts voted for Trump in Tenn or any other state. It looks like speculation. How could you possibily know who drug addicts voted for or if they voted at all? You stated that they don't self identify, yet you know how they voted?

What percentage of the population in a rural county in TN do you estimate is a drug addict?

Here are the county election results for Tenn. https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/tennessee

It looks like the best he did in a county was around 85, and he was more often in the 70s. So using the county where he got 85 percent, how do you know the majority of the drug addicts are in the 85 percent that he got?

We know that Trump didn't win every white rural vote, and he didn't win every non college educated white person's vote. So it seems like you have to look examine what issues drug addicts care about. Focusing on rural and white doesn't tell you anything.

It seems like a drug addict would be mostly concerned about drug supply and welfare. I don't see how either of those concerns makes a drug addict a natural Trump supporter, given Trump wants to build a wall and stop the drug flow into the country, and the Democratic party supports more government spending.

THe Democratic party in general depicts Republican pols as heartless fat cats who want to screw over the poor so it is hard to see a poor drug addict on welfare being a reliable Trump voter.

You also said something upthread about how Confederate flag wavers are natural Trump supporters. I don't see any evidence of that either. Trump never talked up the Confederate flag while running. He's from NYC. I don't recall the Confederate statues thing becoming an issue until after he won.

There is polling data that indicates Trump won majority of college educated white people but nobody points that out on this forum.

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Old 11-21-2017, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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It would be cool if some of the states could set up a 100 percent conservative government with low individual taxes and corporate taxes and less regulation, and free market health insurance.

It would have beast mode economic growth.

The problem now is this country even with the GOP having its most power in 100 years, it is still hard to roll back all the things that we feel undermines economic growth.
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Old 11-21-2017, 11:55 PM
 
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It would be cool if some of the states could set up a 100 percent conservative government with low individual taxes and corporate taxes and less regulation, and free market health insurance.
You can look to the Bahamas as an example of such a government (0% Corporate taxes).
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Old 11-22-2017, 12:42 AM
 
Location: Downtown & Brooklyn!
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Lost cause guys.
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Old 11-22-2017, 04:20 AM
 
Location: Downtown Phoenix, AZ
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You act like everybody in those cities is a Democrat simply because a majority are Democrats. I've pointed out Huntsville Alabama has a lot of NASA and tech related jobs, and Trump cleaned up there.

Why do Democrats own the poor high crime inner cities if the Democratic party is the home of the educated? It would appear there is no correlation between education and voting for Democratic party.

Why do Democrats use class warfare rhetoric such as 'tax cuts for the rich' if your base is so wealthy?

Why did Trump win the majority of white college educated people?

Why did the south become more conservative and Republican as it became more populated, middle class, and educated, and not racist?

If white racists in the south did switch, why are there no segregation policies in the south now? For example, how did Republicans in SC electing one of two black Senators, Tim Scott, make white racists happy?
There are no more segregation policies in the south anymore because the Civil Rights Act made them all illegal.

And the South was ALWAYS conservative. Democrat didn't always mean liberal in all walks of life, it used to just mean pro labor.

And my mother's family is from TN and NC, so I know the south when I say they were always conservative
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Old 11-22-2017, 04:23 AM
 
Location: Downtown Phoenix, AZ
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You can look to the Bahamas as an example of such a government (0% Corporate taxes).
And they aren't doing that great compared to most of the USA, just better than some of the south, like AR and MS
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Old 11-22-2017, 11:10 AM
 
Location: WI
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It would be cool if some of the states could set up a 100 percent conservative government with low individual taxes and corporate taxes and less regulation, and free market health insurance.

It would have beast mode economic growth.

The problem now is this country even with the GOP having its most power in 100 years, it is still hard to roll back all the things that we feel undermines economic growth.
LOL! Check out Kansas. That worked out reaaal well.
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Old 11-22-2017, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Research Triangle Area, NC
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I pitty the soul of every individual who lives in Simpsonville, SC and has to deal with this person in real life.

#PrayForSimpsonville
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