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Dallas does not have large universities with top talent. SMU is a good school, but small considering how big of a city Dallas is. Look at Atlanta, it has Emory and GA Tech and it's a smaller city than Dallas. The other schools in Dallas (UTD etc... just don't cut it, sorry!) Other cities on my list of having talent also have great universities...
You may be saying Dallas does not produce "talent" but I don't think that is the same as not having "talent."
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Agreed.
Texas in general is overrated. I've said this a million times on here but no one on the east coast even talks about Texas. It literally was not until I started reading this board that I saw people ever mention Texas.
Very different from my experiences in the Northeast, especially now, even with people not knowing I am from Texas (people there always assume I am from Asia or California). Every visit, even this month when I went on a day trip to NYC, I hear strangers or people I just meet talk about Texas on multiple occasions. Two or three times a week might not be that common of a thing but its a lot more than I hear people in Texas talk about any other state, with the exceptions of California and Oklahoma.
Maybe things are different in DC, I mostly just visit New York and Boston, more so recently, and sometimes Philadelphia.
You may be saying Dallas does not produce "talent" but I don't think that is the same as not having "talent."
You can be pedantic if you want. Long term it is more important to Amazon in having places that "produce" talent than in places that "have" talent. People get old and retire, colleges keep churning out young and educated folks.
The other side of the coin is "luring" talent and cities like Miami, Austin, Denver, and Nashville know how to do that.
I'm not sure logistics factor into the HQ2 site selection to much extent. I do agree that being in proximity could be advantageous, but overall, "proximity" could mean anywhere from 1-3 hours from a major air hub location. Seattle is a good example of not being an air hub, (except for Alaska and the West Coast), and Amazon seems to be fine with this city. Non-contenders Cincy and St. Louis have lost their passenger hub status over the past decade or two, thus they are good candidates to be large freight hubs. As offered earlier, Cincy (Northern Kentucky) has already landed the Amazon hub. Indy, while in the AMZN top20, is not a major passenger hub.
Logistics is a major requirement. Amazon perfected the art of logistics. According to the requirements, Amazon wants on-site access to mass transit—train, subway, or bus—and to be no more than one or two miles from major highways and connecting roads. It wants to be within 45 minutes of an international airport with daily direct flights to Seattle, New York, the San Francisco Bay area, and Washington DC. The company is also asking applicants to identify “all transit options, including bike lanes and pedestrian access†for the proposed site and to rank traffic congestion during peak commuting hours.
Passenger hub is only a small part of the requirements. As long as there are flights to the above stated destinations the candidates meet the requirements. Logistic wise, Indy is the 2nd largest FedEx hub. Of the listed candidates only Los Angles, New York and Miami operate at a high air cargo capacity rate. Quick and easy access to heavy rail, air cargo, and major interstates and highways is Indy strong suit. Mass transportation is where it falls short.
Logistics is a major requirement. Amazon perfected the art of logistics. According to the requirements, Amazon wants on-site access to mass transit—train, subway, or bus—and to be no more than one or two miles from major highways and connecting roads. It wants to be within 45 minutes of an international airport with daily direct flights to Seattle, New York, the San Francisco Bay area, and Washington DC. The company is also asking applicants to identify “all transit options, including bike lanes and pedestrian access†for the proposed site and to rank traffic congestion during peak commuting hours.
Passenger hub is only a small part of the requirements. As long as there are flights to the above stated destinations the candidates meet the requirements. Logistic wise, Indy is the 2nd largest FedEx hub. Of the listed candidates only Los Angles, New York and Miami operate at a high air cargo capacity rate. Quick and easy access to heavy rail, air cargo, and major interstates and highways is Indy strong suit. Mass transportation is where it falls short.
Logistics isn't a requirement here in terms of moving goods like it would be for an Amazon warehouse, but Amazon has made it clear that ideally, it wants HQ2 easily accessible by multiple modes of transportation.
Logistics isn't a requirement here in terms of moving goods like it would be for an Amazon warehouse, but Amazon has made it clear that ideally, it wants HQ2 easily accessible by multiple modes of transportation.
That and site/building, capital operating cost, incentives, labor force, time to operation, cultural community fit and community/quality of life as well. The missing piece to the puzzle is how each of this requirement are weighted during the decision making process. In Indy's case for example, site/building, capital operating cost, incentive and labor force are easy requirements to meet. Whereas time to operation may be somewhat of a challenge. As far as cultural community fit and quality of life ... those areas are highly subjective and are what I would consider to be wild cards.
Do you think Amazon is asking the same of other cities and Miami is simply keeping the public in the loop better or is this a sign that Miami may have a better bid than others?
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