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View Poll Results: After California, which state has the best 1-2 punch in public u's
AZ: UA, ASU 0 0%
CO: CU, Colo Mines 3 3.33%
TX: UT, A&M 12 13.33%
IN: IU, Pur 8 8.89%
MI: U-M, MSU 23 25.56%
OH: OSU, Miami 0 0%
FL: UF, FSU 6 6.67%
GA: UGA, GT 16 17.78%
NC: UNC, NCSU 12 13.33%
VA: UVA, W&M 27 30.00%
PA: PSU, Pitt 11 12.22%
NY: Bing, Sny Bro 4 4.44%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 90. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-19-2018, 06:11 PM
 
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Clemson is private but Auburn is public.
Clemson is public.
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Old 02-19-2018, 07:06 PM
 
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Cough! Cough! Clemson and Auburn are not public universities.
Yes they are...
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Old 02-19-2018, 07:07 PM
 
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Clemson is private but Auburn is public.
Clemson is public! Where are y'all from?!?!?
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Old 02-19-2018, 07:41 PM
 
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Clemson is public! Where are y'all from?!?!?
So how did Purdue manage to escape being labeled a private university when Clemson and Auburn did get so? I
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Old 02-19-2018, 07:48 PM
 
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Yep, and William and Mary is public too, but is better than most privates.

Clemson also doesnít get its due credit. Itís ranked higher than the U of Minnesota, which is the only game in town for a state known for its exceptional public education system.
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Old 02-19-2018, 07:52 PM
 
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Virginia leading this poll isn't that surprising, but Michigan leading Georgia is absurd.
How? UMich is second to none among public universities (probably tied for top 3-4) and is more highly ranked than GA Tech. MSU is a Big Ten research university ranked among the top 100 undergrads nationally (little lower than UGA) and top 50-60 as a research university (little higher than UGA). Iíd say UMich is better regarded than Ga Tech, and UGA is better than MSU, but the difference isnít all that much between them. You have a strong GA bias if you think itís absurd to consider Michigan equal to or better than GA on this metric.
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Old 02-19-2018, 08:48 PM
 
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Cough! Cough! Clemson and Auburn are not public universities.
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Clemson is private but Auburn is public.
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Thanks! I always get Auburn confused with Vanderbilt.
What in the wide world of sports? This isn't a serious conversation and you two are fooling us all right?
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Old 02-19-2018, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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How? UMich is second to none among public universities (probably tied for top 3-4) and is more highly ranked than GA Tech. MSU is a Big Ten research university ranked among the top 100 undergrads nationally (little lower than UGA) and top 50-60 as a research university (little higher than UGA). Iíd say UMich is better regarded than Ga Tech, and UGA is better than MSU, but the difference isnít all that much between them. You have a strong GA bias if you think itís absurd to consider Michigan equal to or better than GA on this metric.
Very true. UM is an awesome public.
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Old 02-19-2018, 10:37 PM
 
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Virginia has the best 1-2 punch with UVA and William & Mary for undergrad.

Michigan has the best 1-2 punch with Michigan and Michigan State for graduate programs.

Georgia has a very strong pair with GT and UGA, but I do think some regional biases are getting in the way in the arguments that I’ve seen about them being over Michgan. The University of Michigan is generally considered to be the best public university top to bottom for both undergrad and grad programs outside of Berkeley and across the entire breadth of subject areas (from engineering to business to liberal arts). It’s an unbelievably strong school in virtually every area (and I say that as an Illinois alum). GT is a great school, but its high ranking is partly due to its focus on engineering that garners high stat students. If you just took the same mix of engineering and business programs that GT offers from, say, Illinois and Wisconsin (which are mandated as land grant schools to provide majors in areas like agriculture that artificially drag down some of the campus-wide admissions stats), you’d see those schools rank as high or higher than GT. Meanwhile, UGA is slightly stronger than MSU for undergrad, but MSU is actually stronger than UGA for graduate research, so that’s a bit of a wash.

Separately, I think people in this thread are underrating the Texas schools. UT-Austin is an academic powerhouse in virtually every area (similar to Michigan and Berkeley) and Texas A&M has top tier engineering programs.
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Old 02-20-2018, 11:06 AM
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are you telling me any state could match up with the dynamic duo of Cal and UCLA??????????

c'mon....do you really believe any state can compete with that?
Exactly! US News ranks those tied for #1 for public universities in the US.
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges...ies/top-public

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New York with the cuny and suny systems...
New York was late to the game with public universities. I read an article once, which of course I'll never find again, which said they were reluctant to do so because they didn't want to have a system that competed with their private universities. In any event, they didn't establish public unis until 1948. Of course, nothing is quite that simple, here's an overview: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_...ty_of_New_York

Anyway, US News considers Cornell private. So the top ranked public uni in NY is Binghamton at #38, behind many other schools on this list, e.g. Colorado School of Mines (29); U Tex Austin (18); Tex A&M (25); Purdue (18); Michigan (4); Mich State (33); Ohio State (16); Miami of OH (31); U of FL (9); Florida State (33); U of NC (5); North Carolina State (33); UVA (3) William and Mary (6); Penn State (14); Pitt (24); U GA (16); GA Tech (7).

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UIC is no slouch and makes Illinois competitive with some of the states in the poll.
I agree. UIUC #14; UIC #73. Az State is #53 and U Az is #58.
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