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Old 03-09-2018, 01:03 AM
 
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As a liberal atheist living in an ultra-right wing fundamentalist town where my head is constantly beat over the head with a Bible, I can fully understand wanting to live in a place that is progressive and open minded. The good thing is, most cities fit the bill. Just stay away from Oklahoma City.
Seems like a paradox. Maybe not "open minded" towards Christianity?
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Old 03-09-2018, 06:36 AM
 
Location: DFW
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You are not going to find any especially major cities like that. Face it America is a really religious country in general.
True, even the least religious states of Washington, Oregon, Vermont, etc are still fairly religious when compared to most EU nations except Italy.
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Old 03-09-2018, 06:46 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Yeah for university towns they might consider Moscow, Idaho which is right across the border from Pullman Washington. Both are cheap and liberal and in a part of the country that isn't very religious.
I'm a bit surprised that Idaho is one of the less religious states since it's considered fairly socially conservative.
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Old 03-09-2018, 10:39 AM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere
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Seems like a paradox. Maybe not "open minded" towards Christianity?
Nobody wants to be beat over the head with a Bible and told they are not worthy of even living and deserve to die and go to hell 24/7/365 because they have some personality flaw and don't conform. I wouldn't expect a fundamentalist Bible believing Baptist to enjoy living somewhere like the Castro district of San Francisco either.
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Old 03-09-2018, 12:25 PM
 
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I'm a bit surprised that Idaho is one of the less religious states since it's considered fairly socially conservative.
Rural vs urban divide. The West also traditionally has been more mistrusting of government and rebellious. I would say the West isn't so much conservative in terms of bible belt but more like right leaning economically which is not affected by religion at all.
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Old 03-09-2018, 12:29 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Nobody wants to be beat over the head with a Bible and told they are not worthy of even living and deserve to die and go to hell 24/7/365 because they have some personality flaw and don't conform. I wouldn't expect a fundamentalist Bible believing Baptist to enjoy living somewhere like the Castro district of San Francisco either.
I don't go around broadcasting my lack of religious beliefs but I don't shy away from stating it either when asked (except at work where I might change the subject.) I live in perhaps the most religiously conservative metro area in the US and I'd rather contribute to diversifying my locale than to move back to San Francisco and be around others with similarly socially liberal ideals as mine.
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Old 03-09-2018, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Chi > DC > Reno > SEA
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Rural vs urban divide. The West also traditionally has been more mistrusting of government and rebellious. I would say the West isn't so much conservative in terms of bible belt but more like right leaning economically which is not affected by religion at all.
But that's the thing, it's even pretty socially conservative on issues like LGBT rights, the death penalty, pot, etc. Compare to, say, Alaska which is also fiscally conservative and one of the least religious states - but has no death penalty, legal weed, and legalized gay marriage before the country as a whole.

If I had to guess, I'd say it's because the people in a few Western states (Idaho, Utah, parts of Nevada) who are religious tend to be *really* religious, namely Mormon, and have centralized religious structures and lots of political power, which helps keep the states' policies pretty socially conservative. Juxtapose that with Rust Belt states like Michigan and Minnesota, for example, which are pretty religious, but also socially liberal because people are more likely to be passively Christian rather than evangelically so.
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Old 03-09-2018, 01:24 PM
 
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But that's the thing, it's even pretty socially conservative on issues like LGBT rights, the death penalty, pot, etc. Compare to, say, Alaska which is also fiscally conservative and one of the least religious states - but has no death penalty, legal weed, and legalized gay marriage before the country as a whole.

If I had to guess, I'd say it's because the people in a few Western states (Idaho, Utah, parts of Nevada) who are religious tend to be *really* religious, namely Mormon, and have centralized religious structures and lots of political power, which helps keep the states' policies pretty socially conservative. Juxtapose that with Rust Belt states like Michigan and Minnesota, for example, which are pretty religious, but also socially liberal because people are more likely to be passively Christian rather than evangelically so.
Also, Minnesota's Lutheran have a longstanding tradition of social justice since the Scandinavian days.
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Old 03-09-2018, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Buffalo, NY?
I always thought Buffalo was pretty heavily Catholic.

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I'm a bit surprised that Idaho is one of the less religious states since it's considered fairly socially conservative.
Idaho has a lot of LDS (Mormons).
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Old 03-09-2018, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Nobody wants to be beat over the head with a Bible and told they are not worthy of even living and deserve to die and go to hell 24/7/365 because they have some personality flaw and don't conform. I wouldn't expect a fundamentalist Bible believing Baptist to enjoy living somewhere like the Castro district of San Francisco either.
Most religious folks don't do that whatsoever. That's much more common in Baptist, Evangelical and some extreme sects where they preach the gospel like it's their job. Catholics, Jews, Muslims, and even Mormons don't do this -- at least not nearly to this extreme. I follow most closely with the Episcopal sect of Christianity (aka "Catholic-lite"), and this is just not something that we do. The only time I've ever seen such a thing first-hand is when I visited a Baptist church in college.

*Note: this is not to say that preaching to people who you don't even know is necessarily a "bad" or "wrong" thing, but it's definitely too in-your-face for most who want to keep an open mind in terms of religion/spirituality. I'd imagine the same is true for politics (esp. these days!).
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