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Old 03-14-2018, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Avondale, Chicago
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^^No matter how you slice and dice it, Pittsburgh is not a midwestern city. Other than that, I agree with your post.
Pittsburgh is a Pittsburgh city.

Its built environment is enough like NYC for it to stand in for NYC as a filming location, but the pace and way of life is more like the Midwestern cities, Chicago perhaps excepted, as well as its history as an industrial center. Today it's more centered on service economy like the other traditional Midwestern industrial hubs.

Lingustically yinz have a mix of Midwest, Northeast and Appalachia all rolled into the same spot in the Allegheny Valley.

It's not much use trying to classify it into any of the regions it doesn't neatly fit into.
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Old 03-14-2018, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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You're talking about 60 million people all living within about 7-8 hours of each other
Exactly. And this also extends to the lower Midwest. Suburban Cincinnati for example is 2 hours to Louisville, 1.5 hours to Indianapolis, 1.5 hours to Columbus, 20 minutes to Dayton, 5 hours to Chicago and Cleveland, etc.

Those nighttime satellite images of the US tell the story and show how close together the cities really are. West of the line between Minneapolis and Dallas, there is almost nothing.

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Old 03-14-2018, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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"Its always cold" No. We have actual seasons, more so than half the country (geographically) Sorry its not 65 degrees in December.
"Super flat" Driftless and Ozarks. Plus the Great Lake shores
"Super white" ... Detroit. Chicago. St. Louis. Yea, outside the big cities its pretty white. So? Don't be racist.
"Super conservative" Ummm Minnesota... Illinois... even Iowa.
"No good food" I mean, it doesn't compare to the South but... corn is delicious. So are cheese curds, Chicago style pizza/hot dogs and Minnesota wild rice. Also... fair food.
"Tornadoes will kill you." The chance of being killed in a tornado are so slim.
"There's no nature." Northern Minnesota, Wisconsin and the UP? Yea.
"They're behind the times." Hmm not really, but considering the direction we're all heading into, is that really a bad thing?
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Old 03-14-2018, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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It's a misconception that the midwest is a great place to live. LOL

Yea, please don't move here its just awful.
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Old 03-14-2018, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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"Its always cold" No. We have actual seasons, more so than half the country (geographically) Sorry its not 65 degrees in December.
"Super flat" Driftless and Ozarks. Plus the Great Lake shores
"Super white" ... Detroit. Chicago. St. Louis. Yea, outside the big cities its pretty white. So? Don't be racist.
"Super conservative" Ummm Minnesota... Illinois... even Iowa.
"No good food" I mean, it doesn't compare to the South but... corn is delicious. So are cheese curds, Chicago style pizza/hot dogs and Minnesota wild rice. Also... fair food.
"Tornadoes will kill you." The chance of being killed in a tornado are so slim.
"There's no nature." Northern Minnesota, Wisconsin and the UP? Yea.
"They're behind the times." Hmm not really, but considering the direction we're all heading into, is that really a bad thing?
Don't forget about the Cleveland Polish Boy lol .
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Old 03-14-2018, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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"Its always cold" No. We have actual seasons, more so than half the country (geographically) Sorry its not 65 degrees in December.
"Super flat" Driftless and Ozarks. Plus the Great Lake shores
"Super white" ... Detroit. Chicago. St. Louis. Yea, outside the big cities its pretty white. So? Don't be racist.
"Super conservative" Ummm Minnesota... Illinois... even Iowa.
"No good food" I mean, it doesn't compare to the South but... corn is delicious. So are cheese curds, Chicago style pizza/hot dogs and Minnesota wild rice. Also... fair food.
"Tornadoes will kill you." The chance of being killed in a tornado are so slim.
"There's no nature." Northern Minnesota, Wisconsin and the UP? Yea.
"They're behind the times." Hmm not really, but considering the direction we're all heading into, is that really a bad thing?
Can you please elaborate on this?
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Old 03-14-2018, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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It's a joke and I know it, but it's a caricature of what the typical NYer thinks of the rest of the country.

We had someone from Brooklyn move to my high school in Texas a good quarter century ago. She said she was expecting to see cowboys. I told her the only cowboys she'll see are on TV on Sundays in the fall, and maybe at the rodeo.
Tell her to go to Eastland County I bought my first car (and Oldsmobile) from a cowboy sleazy salesman in Cisco, Texas. What a rip off but damn do I miss that car.
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Old 03-14-2018, 03:18 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Pittsburgh is a Pittsburgh city.

Its built environment is enough like NYC for it to stand in for NYC as a filming location, but the pace and way of life is more like the Midwestern cities, Chicago perhaps excepted, as well as its history as an industrial center. Today it's more centered on service economy like the other traditional Midwestern industrial hubs.

Lingustically yinz have a mix of Midwest, Northeast and Appalachia all rolled into the same spot in the Allegheny Valley.

It's not much use trying to classify it into any of the regions it doesn't neatly fit into.
No midwestern linguistics in the Pittsburgh accent. We say "bag" as in baa baa black sheep; they say "bayg". We say "bawttle" (bottle), they say "baahttle" (as in "say ahh for the doctor"). Etc.

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"Its always cold" No. We have actual seasons, more so than half the country (geographically) Sorry its not 65 degrees in December.
"Super flat" Driftless and Ozarks. Plus the Great Lake shores
"Super white" ... Detroit. Chicago. St. Louis. Yea, outside the big cities its pretty white. So? Don't be racist.
"Super conservative" Ummm Minnesota... Illinois... even Iowa.
"No good food" I mean, it doesn't compare to the South but... corn is delicious. So are cheese curds, Chicago style pizza/hot dogs and Minnesota wild rice. Also... fair food.
"Tornadoes will kill you." The chance of being killed in a tornado are so slim.
"There's no nature." Northern Minnesota, Wisconsin and the UP? Yea.
"They're behind the times." Hmm not really, but considering the direction we're all heading into, is that really a bad thing?
Popcorn is a major crop in Nebraska.
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Old 03-14-2018, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Avondale, Chicago
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Tell her to go to Eastland County I bought my first car (and Oldsmobile) from a cowboy sleazy salesman in Cisco, Texas. What a rip off but damn do I miss that car.
Yeah, if you go out in cattle country you'll see guys like that. Not so much the oil refinery town of dudes in jumpsuits, biker jackets and mechanic's shirts with "Butch" stitched on the front.

But those stereotypes again.
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Old 03-14-2018, 08:30 PM
 
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I just created a post on people's misconceptions of the Coasts. Now, I want to hear people's misconceptions of the Midwest. I've heard enough misconceptions about the Midwest especially being from Cleveland. I've heard it's flat, depressing, broke and everybody is ignorant and uncultured. My misconception is that I feel that the Midwest is always being blamed for America's problems and it seems like the media's worst enemy or a region that everybody loves to crap on. What are the misconceptions of the Midwest. No matter if you're a lifelong resident, transplant or a former resident, I'd like to hear whether it's from the media, hearsay or even yourself.
As someone who has lived in all 4 regions of the U.S.A...in addition to living in London and Amsterdam for 2 years each, I think I'm qualified to confirm or dispel any misconceptions or stereotypes of the midwest for almost a decade....specifically dealing with Illinois/Wisconsin/Indiana natives and living in the Chicagoland area.

1 of the biggest misconceptions about the Midwest is....FRIENDLINESS....no...it's not true....Midwestern friendliness is the biggest misconception you'll hear....A lot of them are passive aggressive and they like to display a lot of micro aggressions with a sinister smile...foul body language with a smile is another tool they use ...their friendliness is also a very calculated rehearsed kind of friendliness...It's not genuine friendliness...It's only on the surface and robotic....It's forced...manufactured...It's actually harder to befriend midwesteners on a deeper level besides the "surface" play-pretend stuff is too much....I also feel that Midwesterners don't form deeper relationships based on common interest, goals, and lifestyle like on the East or West....Deeper Friendships here are based on family ties, "best friend of a close friend" situations, "We grow up together" situations, and "We worked together for XXX amount of years at such and such company" situations.....With that being said, if you're not from the midwest, it will be very hard to get a heart to heart genuine friendship with them....They'll be friendly to your face but you'll constantly be made to feel like "You're not one of us" in subtle calculated ways...and you'll also be discussed once you leave the room.....and it's usually a not so nice discussion about you eventhough they were friendly to you lol.......There is also a lot of racial segregation and race related dynamics to navigate through....so if your not white, you'll really have a tough time....and it doesn't matter how well spoken...or how well dressed....or how much money you have....or how attractive you are....Your race will play a role in how when it comes to friendships and how friendly people are towards you....I never felt the need to pick friends based on race prior to moving to the midwest but after a few years of coming to understand the culture, I've come to a conclusion that race is a big deal here....It's normal here and everyone seems to accept the racial dynamics but as a transplant, I was disgusted for the first 2 years....I've never gotten used to it but I don't let it me bother me as much because I don't anticipate on building a future here in the midwest. On the east coast, ppl are blunt, unfiltered, and straight to business..You know where they stand...WHICH I LIKE.....On the west coast, people are relaxed but they love to talk about themselves so it's easier to know a west coaster on a deeper level for a connection....WHICH I LIKE....In the MIDWEST, people are incredible calculated...from the smile on their faces to the twinkle in their eye....to their tone of voice....to the image they portray....in a very secretive kind of way....you never know what's on their mind or what eggs they're planning to hatch but they make it an aim to ask you personal questions they have no business asking.....they do a lot of friendly talking but it's just meaningless small talk or petty gossiping that never leads to any that matters in life....It can be exhausting dealing with a lot of them....and to be honest, dealing with midwesterners has taught me how to have patience....because that is the only way a transplant from a different region can keep their sanity around these types of people.....You need a lot of patience and a lot of tolerance to be able put up with them for YEARS.....oh....1 last bit.....STARES....Midwesterners like to stare....constantly staring at you from the corner of their eye.....Even if your car windows are tinted, they'll keep staring to see if they can hopefully get a glimpse of who is driving....sheepish stares....goat-ish glares....and when you turn around to establish eye contact, they avert their eyes to pretend they were not looking....just ridiculous, phony, and UNFRIENDLY.....and quite sad.....they whole eye aversion thing they do is an experience I've only tasted here in the midwest.....No where else.....
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