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Old 03-18-2018, 01:17 AM
 
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Thank you, aries4118!

There is a comfort level here that simply doesn't exist in most major cities, particularly in regard to black/white relations - and I have been to all of them.

This is the cradle of the Civil Rights movement, and our politicians had cooler heads than any other major city in the South back then. The most telling example of this is the fact that Birmingham and Atlanta were equals in size and stature in the early 60's. Look at the differences between the two now. This is also the only major city with a large black population that didn't experience riots in the aftermath of MLK's assassination, despite the fact that he was born here and buried here.

For the past 20 years, political and business leaders of Metro Atlanta have taken annual trips to other major cities to see what they are doing right and wrong, and what we can learn from them. On a visit to Chicago several years ago, our leadership was told by their equals there that they would love to be able to address racial issues as openly as we do. 'That is considered taboo here' was the oft-repeated quote they brought home.

We are proud of this fact, including all of the ethnicities that make up this beautiful place. This includes this white guy that spent his childhood in the segregated Midwest, and is proud to call Atlanta home.
Meanwhile, the four adjacent counties of Cherokee, Dawson, Forsyth, and Pickens, which are located just north of Atlanta, happened to be collectively home to 154,000 white residents and only 1900 black residents in 1990. The strange thing is that Atlanta area leaders and residents didn't see anything peculiar despite the collective demographic makeup of a Sundown Region for black folks. The other thing is that the longtime claims of civic leaders that Atlanta is a racially harmoneous city have never been validated by anyone in the social science community.
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Old 03-18-2018, 11:34 AM
 
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Meanwhile, the four adjacent counties of Cherokee, Dawson, Forsyth, and Pickens, which are located just north of Atlanta, happened to be collectively home to 154,000 white residents and only 1900 black residents in 1990. The strange thing is that Atlanta area leaders and residents didn't see anything peculiar despite the collective demographic makeup of a Sundown Region for black folks. The other thing is that the longtime claims of civic leaders that Atlanta is a racially harmoneous city have never been validated by anyone in the social science community.
You can't be serious with this garbage. Do you realize how far these places are from the core Metro Counties? Dawson & Pickens Counties are up in the Mountains, 60 to 70 miles from Downtown.

How about you share with us all just how progressive random rural Parishes 60 to 70 miles from Downtown New Orleans are?

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Old 03-18-2018, 11:38 AM
 
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Meanwhile, the four adjacent counties of Cherokee, Dawson, Forsyth, and Pickens, which are located just north of Atlanta, happened to be collectively home to 154,000 white residents and only 1900 black residents in 1990. The strange thing is that Atlanta area leaders and residents didn't see anything peculiar despite the collective demographic makeup of a Sundown Region for black folks. The other thing is that the longtime claims of civic leaders that Atlanta is a racially harmoneous city have never been validated by anyone in the social science community.
Well, since this thread is about cities and Atlanta is a city, I don't know why anyone would talk about those counties...especially pre-1990.

Forsyth, Dawson, and Pickens were not even considered Metro Atlanta prior to 1990. Dawson and Pickens are still not included in Metro Atlanta (though they are now included in the CSA). In 1990, Cherokee was still considered backwoods and its premier development had just begun (Towne Lake).

Its fairly obtuse of you to try to downgrade the racial harmony of Atlanta by invoking pre-1990 rural North Georgia Mountain counties. Obtuse--and unintelligent.
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Old 03-18-2018, 01:45 PM
 
Location: The City
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Houston might be the best answer based on my experiences
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Old 03-18-2018, 01:51 PM
 
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a lot of diverse citiies, like NYC, are really mostly made up of communities which self-segregate. Asians, blacks, whites, hispanics, in their own communities living with similar cultures. the multiracial interactions are usually when they all have to go to work. it would be less harmonious i suspect if people started getting bussed into different communities where they dont look like the residents
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Old 03-18-2018, 01:55 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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Nice to hear those posting about Texas.... It didn't feel "racially harmonious" when I was a teen there (Houston area) but that was many years ago. Glad things are progressing.
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Old 03-19-2018, 07:44 PM
 
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Well, since this thread is about cities and Atlanta is a city, I don't know why anyone would talk about those counties...especially pre-1990.

Forsyth, Dawson, and Pickens were not even considered Metro Atlanta prior to 1990. Dawson and Pickens are still not included in Metro Atlanta (though they are now included in the CSA). In 1990, Cherokee was still considered backwoods and its premier development had just begun (Towne Lake).

Its fairly obtuse of you to try to downgrade the racial harmony of Atlanta by invoking pre-1990 rural North Georgia Mountain counties. Obtuse--and unintelligent.
Confederate General and Georgia Klan leader John B. Gordon statue sittinģ in downtown Atlanta without much pushback though. And you're not going to tell me that what has been the most segregated city in the South, as well as being the birthplace of the modern Ku Klux Klan, has also been it's most racially harmonious.

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Old 03-20-2018, 01:00 AM
 
Location: Moose Jaw, in between the Moose's butt and nose.
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Based on travel and living and lack of trouble that I have seen from there two, I’d have to say Denver or Las Vegas
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Old 03-20-2018, 02:41 AM
 
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Well, since this thread is about cities and Atlanta is a city, I don't know why anyone would talk about those counties...especially pre-1990.

Forsyth, Dawson, and Pickens were not even considered Metro Atlanta prior to 1990. Dawson and Pickens are still not included in Metro Atlanta (though they are now included in the CSA). In 1990, Cherokee was still considered backwoods and its premier development had just begun (Towne Lake).

Its fairly obtuse of you to try to downgrade the racial harmony of Atlanta by invoking pre-1990 rural North Georgia Mountain counties. Obtuse--and unintelligent.

Not too many people would believe that Atlanta has been the most racially harmonious place in the South who are aware that Forsyth County has truly been the most racially unharmonious place in South, because they are neighboring locales whose white residents basically share the same cultural makeup. That commonality is probably why white Atlantans have strangely been reluctant to portray Forsyth County in a negative light all these years.

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Old 03-20-2018, 07:53 AM
 
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Houston, in my experience
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