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Old 04-03-2018, 01:51 PM
 
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Well, the Mojave Desert contains such things as the Joshua Tree National Park and Joshua Trees don't grow in Arizona.

Also, rain does fall in the California deserts but it happens in the winter, which means that around this time of year after the rains have subsided, you get fabulous spring flowers. In AZ at this time of year everything is wilted. In summer you'll get a few cactus blooming in the monsoon season and some perennial grass that'll green up for a few weeks. Then it's back to brown. Nothing like the CA wildflowers in the spring after the rainy season.

There's nothing equivalent to this:
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/42573158947349629/
https://www.nps.gov/jotr/index.htm
Theres most definitely joshua trees in AZ, NV, and UT.

And just because we have the summer monsoons I wouldn't be so quick to neglect that our ACTUAL rainy season is mid winter as well...We have spring wild flowers popping up as we speak. not simply "wilting"
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Old 04-18-2018, 05:09 PM
 
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Maybe, in your dreams. People are people, and just because they live in a western state, doesn't mean they go along with the "anything goes" mentality. Utah, for example, where does that fit into your comments. Just because I might live in a state that is blue or red, doesn't mean I am. Your logic is flawed.



You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. In general, the west is open minded, accepting, and has a anything goes mentality. Of course there are exceptions, but we're talking about as a whole. It's less socially conservative, more libertarian and very liberal. There's a reason why many young people end up "heading west". Utah is a Mormon state, but Mormons are pretty liberal considering their positions on immigration. They even have politicians like Misty Snow representing their state.
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Old 04-18-2018, 05:21 PM
 
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Liberal?! In what fantasy world or alternate universe is this?



Yes, the West is liberal. As evidenced by the lack of social conservatism in the region compared to the South or Midwest.


If you take the most conservative western states of Utah, Idaho, and Wyoming, you'll see that Mormon type conservatism and libertarian type conservatism is what's prevalent, they would be considered liberals by Southern and Midwestern conservatives. That's how different it is. The West is a mix of very far left people, Mormons, and libertarians.
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Old 04-20-2018, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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Kind of. Like I think LV and Phoenix are basically a part of California.
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Old 04-22-2018, 12:29 AM
 
Location: North Dakota
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Yes, the West is liberal. As evidenced by the lack of social conservatism in the region compared to the South or Midwest.


If you take the most conservative western states of Utah, Idaho, and Wyoming, you'll see that Mormon type conservatism and libertarian type conservatism is what's prevalent, they would be considered liberals by Southern and Midwestern conservatives. That's how different it is. The West is a mix of very far left people, Mormons, and libertarians.
Have you lived out West? You are so off base. The conservatism in the West is often of the extremist 1800s variety that is in your face with a few VERY small pockets of liberal people. Mormon conservatism is the closest thing to a theocracy you will get in the USA. Live and let live is hardly the case with a lot of people.
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Old 04-22-2018, 02:35 PM
 
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Have you lived out West? You are so off base. The conservatism in the West is often of the extremist 1800s variety that is in your face with a few VERY small pockets of liberal people. Mormon conservatism is the closest thing to a theocracy you will get in the USA. Live and let live is hardly the case with a lot of people.
You are off base. Way off.
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Old 04-23-2018, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Monument,CO
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..Colorado is incredibly friendly! People passing you on the sidewalk say "hello" and are neighborly, like the Bay Area used to be, and still is in pockets. IDK about Denver, but in the small towns, and even the resort towns, people are friendly, in my experience. It's a breath of fresh air!
Umm, no. More than 82% of Colorado's population lives along the front range and I'd characterize them as self absorbed upper middle class white people without fear of being overly harsh. You hit one or two isolated pockets.
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Old 04-25-2018, 06:36 PM
 
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Have you lived out West? You are so off base. The conservatism in the West is often of the extremist 1800s variety that is in your face with a few VERY small pockets of liberal people. Mormon conservatism is the closest thing to a theocracy you will get in the USA. Live and let live is hardly the case with a lot of people.


Then explain why racist incidents occur less out West? explain why the West has the highest rates of interracial dating and marriage in the country? explain why the West has a HUGE population that is mixed race. Yeah, sounds like such an extremist, intolerant place, not live and let live at all.


Get real.


The conservatism out West is lite. There's a reason why there's a divide among the GOP, you essentially have the McCain, Flake, Romney, anti Trump "true conservatives" wing out West, and the Steve King, alt right "nationalist" pro Trump wing in the Midwest and South. The vast majority of the anti Trump Republicans all come from Western states. That is pretty telling.

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Old 04-25-2018, 10:10 PM
 
Location: North Dakota
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Then explain why racist incidents occur less out West? explain why the West has the highest rates of interracial dating and marriage in the country? explain why the West has a HUGE population that is mixed race. Yeah, sounds like such an extremist, intolerant place, not live and let live at all.


Get real.


The conservatism out West is lite. There's a reason why there's a divide among the GOP, you essentially have the McCain, Flake, Romney, anti Trump "true conservatives" wing out West, and the Steve King, alt right "nationalist" pro Trump wing in the Midwest and South. The vast majority of the anti Trump Republicans all come from Western states. That is pretty telling.
In my personal experience I've run into a lot more bat**** insane in your face conservatives out west than in the Midwest I can tell you that much. And I certainly didn't go looking for them.
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Old 04-26-2018, 08:24 AM
 
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In my personal experience I've run into a lot more bat**** insane in your face conservatives out west than in the Midwest I can tell you that much. And I certainly didn't go looking for them.
Your so called personal experience involves meeting a few dozen people in Montana or Wyoming? The West is a huge area of the USA, it is silly to label nearly half of the country based on your assumptions.

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