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Old 03-20-2018, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Downtown Phoenix, AZ
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Back in Rochester, NY where I grew up, everyone referred to Rochester proper as "The City".

Here in Phoenix, if you live in Phoenix proper (like I do), you generally tell people what neighborhood you live in, since the built environment in the city limits varies. So I say I live in Eastlake Park (my specific neighborhood) or Downtown to make it easier.
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Old 03-20-2018, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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Here's the Dialect Prevalence Map from 2013. The question was What is "The City" to you?

Here is a heat map for New York. The redder the area, the more prevalent that the respondent replied NYC. The bluer the area means that locals there refer to another place as "The City"

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Old 03-20-2018, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Philly is weird especially the northern burbs (say Bucks and Burlington counties in PA and NJ respectively)


People can refer to Philly as the city or more commonly Center City but people do use "city". All while simultaneously using the "city" as Manhattan. Its almost like a different inflection or context and even with the same word most times you understand which one they mean. Those areas of the Philly burbs are pretty close to both Manhattan and Philly so maybe that plays in




On the national context NYC is by far the most commonly recognized. more regionally SF probably next but not on a national context whereas NYC carries that much further across the US


Many locals refer to their core as the city


NYC is the real outlier on this though the popularity of the GS (originally Philadelphia) Warriors has added a bit to the linkage for SF even though the play in the East bay (Oakland has a few originally Philadelphia teams with the Warriors and As (as a quirky tid bit)
Is Philly the only city without a place called downtown? And do people ever substitute "Downtown" for "Center City"???

A real mistake when I started this thread. I should have included far more places called the City and made this thread more of a "what do they call it??"
That question was for you obviosly, but I have some others I'll throw out to anybody:

*. Is the place name "Washington" ever used in Metro DC?

* Likewise, is the word "Los Angeles" ever used in LA, LA County, or in Metro LA?

*. And related to the two above, do the various
metro areas use (in spoken language) any of the Following: St. Petersburg, Indianapolis, Philadelphia?



*. There is no place spoken of as "Suburban San Francisco". Is such true for any other city?

*. How about the word "Kansas City". Is it ever used in the metro area or does one always use terms like KCMO and KCKS?

*. One, of course can say "New Orleans" or "NOLA". Are there acceptable uses for "NO"??

Not about cities, but still "what do theycall it?

*. Is it ever appropriate to call these universities by these names (as opposed to the ones in parentheses: Mississippi (Ole Miss), Louisiana State (LSU), Pennsylvania State (Penn State), Pennsylvania (Penn), California (Cal), Missouri (Mizzou)?????

*. There is no place name called "New York City". New York is the name for a city, county and state. Is the word New York City ever used in metro New York? Is it ever appropriate to refer to the.
State with Buffaalo, Albany and Syracuse as "New York"?

*. Is the D/FW metro ever called Metro Dallas" or The Dallas area?"

* is "The Bay Area" the default for the San Francisco Bay Area for virtually anybody outside of Florida"????

*. Are these terms recognized and used across the nation: Chicagoland, Netroplex, Research Triangle??

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Old 03-20-2018, 07:31 AM
 
Location: New York Metropolitan Area
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This is an interesting topic. As a frequent traveler over the years I have observed cities using this term all over the country.

Sure, San Francisco is probably the best and most accurate example. (Check out "Lights" by Journey) NYC can also lay claim on the term for obvious reasons. But I have also heard it used as "The Big City" in Texas, in Houston. Believe it or not, I also have heard it in Seattle on radio as "the big city" in the Northwest.
I think people in the NY metro all call it the city, it's definitely way more used here than in SF.
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Old 03-20-2018, 07:33 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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more "District" than "DC".....right?
I'd say about equal. News media and tv may refer to the District more, but some Marylander headed downtown to meet someone for dinner would say "I'll hit you when I get into the city". etc
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Old 03-20-2018, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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I think people in the NY metro all call it the city, it's definitely way more used here than in SF.
Nope. SF is widely referred to as 'the City' in Northern California-even in neighboring metro areas like Sacramento, there's no mistaking where 'the city' is. This goes back to the mid 1800s so it's not a recent thing.
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Old 03-20-2018, 09:14 AM
 
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D.C. is referred to as "the city" also locally, or just simply the District.

Everything else is viewed as the "suburbs" here, even if it is actually urban.
A lot of my friends in the burbs say they are going into DC and vice versa, they say they are going to MD or VA. Perhaps because a lot of them are transients?

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Old 03-20-2018, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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What about Baltimore? Do they say it to differentiate from Baltimore County?
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Old 03-20-2018, 09:56 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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While growing up, whenever anyone in my family referred to "the city", it always meant New York, despite the fact we lived in northern New England. Most of my family still lives there and the suburbs, so we visited often. Whenever other New Englanders referred to "the city", it always mean Boston (except for southwest CT). Here, whenever anyone says "the city", it obviously means Philly.

Now that I live in the city, whenever I'm going into Center City I just say I'm going downtown, even though I'm actually traveling north uptown from my neighborhood.
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Old 03-20-2018, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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* Likewise, is the word "Los Angeles" ever used in LA, LA County, or in Metro LA?
In the time I've lived here, I've never heard "Los Angeles" said out loud unless I leave the city and go elsewhere. It's usually just LA.

It also seems (from my observations) when people say they're "going to LA" they're referencing anywhere west of DTLA (unless it's specifically West Hollywood, Beverly Hills, or Santa Monica).

I've also noticed for a lot of people, "LA" and "downtown LA" mean the same thing.
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