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Old 04-07-2018, 08:09 AM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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Biking and walking.
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Old 04-07-2018, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Hills and bridges can be a traffic nightmare, especially during a snow event.
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Old 04-07-2018, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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I even like flat countryside. Didn't appreciate it as much when I was younger, but the older I get, the more I could ditch the hills forever. Too tedious and cumbersome to deal with.
Amen. I also miss the sky, sun, and stars.
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Old 04-07-2018, 11:04 AM
 
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See New Orleans, Mobile, Savannah, and Charleston
New Orleans, or anywhere on the Gulf Coast or Florida, are perfectly flat. Not only are they alot more fun to bike around than San Francisco, they also have plenty of historic charm that no lack in topography can detract from. And for what they lack in topography, they more than compensate for in their beautiful, lush greenery--bayous, longleaf pine forests, bald cypress swamps, majestic live oaks with spanish moss, and wonderful, sugar-fine sand beaches with 85 degree water.

Then there are cities like Sacramento which are very flat and are still hot, dry, barren and dead, and have nothing aesthetically going for them at all.
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Old 04-07-2018, 11:12 AM
 
Location: North Dakota
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Do they generalize about people too?
Spend a few months in a pretty mountain town and we will talk about generalizing.
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Old 04-07-2018, 11:34 PM
 
Location: South Park, San Diego
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Biking and walking.
But, you know, both biking and walking up hills are especially fitness intensive beneficial as we get older. Neither in flat environments ever really provide any real cardiovascular/strength benefits at all, unless you are incorporating sprinting or climbing elements to that.
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Old 04-08-2018, 08:57 AM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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I am neither here nor there on the flatness of cities. Flat cities are good for getting around regardless of vehicle type or weather, while hilly cities have some visual charm or appeal.

But what grinds my gears is people who are really attached to the notion that topographical prominence (size of hills/mountains) is proportional to an area's beauty.

For example, I have had someone tell me that an area of 12,000 ft. peaks is inherently more beautiful than an area of 10,000 peaks. This is absolute nonsense, in my opinion. Now I live in mountain country and regularly hike in sub-alpine and alpine terrain and I can appreciate the grandeur of high mountains, but I don't care in an area is comprised of 100 ft. rolling hills, beauty is beauty.

Not only that, but one of the most beautiful vistas I have ever experienced was driving from Cincinnatti to Columbus across a plain of mixed fields and woods scattered at different distances under a lowering grey stormy sky the color of steel. Each woods, five to fifty acres or so in size, surrounded by hundreds-of-acre sized field parcels, was a slightly different shade of purple-green, from a light lavender to dark purple shade as they receded into the distance, all highlighted by the impossibly green knee high corn and occasionally lit by strikes of lightning. Little red and white barns and farmhouses here and there. I never thought flat farmland could strike me so much.
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Old 04-08-2018, 10:31 AM
 
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Hilly cities work out on the west coast but they are a pain in the ass in the Midwest and East Coast where we have winters that can get snowy and cold.
Pittsburgh public works department prioritize hills. I live near one of the steepest hills in the US (Dornbush). This street is salted ahead of and during snow storms. We are conditioned for driving over hills in inclement weather. It's not that bad.
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Old 04-08-2018, 10:44 AM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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It's certainly easier to navigate a flatter city on bike or foot than a hilly city.
Exactly my thought.
Makes you rethink what truly makes a city 'walkable'.
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Old 04-08-2018, 10:48 AM
 
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That's one reason why people in hilly walkable cities tend to be in better shape.
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