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Old 03-30-2018, 12:40 AM
 
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In this thread we discuss the unsung hero cities who have always been in the shadow of their close big city.
These are the ones I can think of at the top of my head :
Tulsa,OK
Portland,OR
Fort Worth, TX
Tucson,AZ
Milwaukee,WS

Do you think they ever have a chance of surpassing their big brother cities?
Has there ever been a case whereby a small city surpassed the big city near it?.
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Old 03-30-2018, 01:27 AM
 
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It wasn't that long ago that DC surpassed Baltimore in municipal population.
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Old 03-30-2018, 01:29 AM
 
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San Jose, CA (Even though its bigger than San Francisco, people still overlook it).
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Old 03-30-2018, 05:11 AM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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Prior to this decade Portland was making some huge grounds and was catching up pretty fast to Seattle in terms of population, but since 2010 Seattle has exploded in population and has distanced itself quite a bit.

Year [Seattle] [Portland] Difference
1960 [557,087 | 19.10%] [372,676 | −0.3%] -184,411
1970 [530,831 | −4.7%] [382,619 | 2.70%] -148,212
1980 [493,846 | −7.0%] [366,383 | −4.2%] -127,463
1990 [516,259 | 4.50%] [437,319 | 19.40%] -78,940
2000 [563,374 | 9.10%] [529,121 | 21.00%] -34,253
2010 [608,660 | 8.00%] [583,776 | 10.30%] -24,884
2016 [704,352 | 15.70%] [639,863 | 9.60%] -64,489

However technically speaking Portland can eventually beat Seattle since it has more land area (133 sq mi vs 83.87 sq mi)
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Old 03-30-2018, 05:37 AM
 
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St Petersburg FL is a good example, which has been overshadowed by Tampa for awhile until recent years. It had been kind of relegated to someplace where people went grow old and die back in the 70s-80s, and probably what saved it in terms of not having it's character torn down for bad redevelopment at some point in the late 20th century. The downtown areas are now (and have been) thriving and has put Tampa into catch up mode to be competitive. Although losing the Tampa Bay Rays to a new facility in Tampa, St Pete's downtown will benefit hugely from the giant parcel of land Tropicana Field sits on right in the heart of downtown in terms of new development. St Pete is 2/3 the size of Tampa (275K to 375K) and due to geographic restrictions including half the land space, will never surpass Tampa in terms of population. However it's bayfront/oceanfront location, character and artsy/cultural vibe will keep it a very noticeable neighbor going forward.
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Old 03-30-2018, 05:52 AM
 
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St Paul
Ft Lauderdale
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Old 03-30-2018, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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Some of Florida's metropolitan areas have sprawling suburban/satellite cities with larger populations than their central city. Typically the central city is still the key focal point of the metro area with more major buildings, cultural and government institutions, and employers, but it will cover a smaller area than the outlying communities. Also household sizes tend to be smaller in the central city, with more singles and retired couples, and fewer families with children. Smaller household sizes will correlate to a lower total population.

Daytona Beach <-> Deltona
Fort Myers <-> Cape Coral
Fort Pierce <-> Port Saint Lucie
Melbourne <-> Palm Bay
Sarasota <-> North Port
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Old 03-30-2018, 07:14 AM
 
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Originally Posted by DaveStavroz View Post
In this thread we discuss the unsung hero cities who have always been in the shadow of their close big city.
These are the ones I can think of at the top of my head :
Tulsa,OK
Portland,OR
Fort Worth, TX
Tucson,AZ
Milwaukee,WS

Do you think they ever have a chance of surpassing their big brother cities?
Has there ever been a case whereby a small city surpassed the big city near it?.
Milwaukee will never surpass Chicago. In time, the two cities will be a part of the same CSA....in time. Milwaukee can stand on its own, and Chicago is looked at the big sister down the road.
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Old 03-30-2018, 07:23 AM
 
Location: The City
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arguments can be made for places like


Baltimore today to DC
Philadelphia to NYC
Wilmington DE to Philly


though are more nuanced than some of the others
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Old 03-30-2018, 08:00 AM
 
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Providence in relation to Boston.
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