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Old 04-03-2018, 10:09 PM
Location: Miami-Jax
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Originally Posted by KathrynAragon View Post
Oh, I'm not offended at all. But thanks for expounding on the topic. I think it's an interesting one.

Originally Posted by eschaton View Post
Texas is not gaining older people. The number of boomers declined by 3.1% from 2010 to 2016. The gain is driven by Gen X and Millennials.
Ah but it appears that FL is, does it not?
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Old 04-04-2018, 07:56 AM
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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Originally Posted by projectmaximus View Post

Ah but it appears that FL is, does it not?
Yes, Florida is still gaining boomers, which of course (given no new boomers are being minted) has to be due to migration - likely mostly domestic, as immigrants don't typically come to the U.S. when elderly or even in late middle age.

Of course, depending upon your definition of "old" Florida might just be treading water when it comes to old people. The population of pre-boomers (Silents and the tiny remainder of the Greatest Generation) is dropping fast due to death. And arguably boomers who haven't turned 65 yet and/or haven't retired shouldn't be considered old. Still, Florida remains a popular place to relocate for those who are either retiring or just about to retire.
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Old 04-04-2018, 09:47 AM
Location: "The Dirty Irv" Irving, TX
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This is actually a pretty cool tool from Wikipedia:

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Old 04-04-2018, 03:29 PM
Location: Inland FL
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The advancements in air conditioning, sunshine and weather, availability of cheaper and flatter land. Generally lower taxes and lower housing costs. If we still didn't have ac, a lot fewer people would actually live here.
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Old 04-04-2018, 07:42 PM
Location: San Antonio
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Originally Posted by eschaton View Post
It's a slightly different story between the two states.

1. Florida has a relatively low birth rate now due to the large number of retirees. Over the last seven years, for example, there have only been 235,000 more births than deaths. However, it has huge levels of net migration. The majority of this net migration is domestic - most from the Northeast - and obviously a fairly large proportion remain retirees. Florida gets nearly as many immigrants as domestic migrants, but the Census defines Puerto Rico as being "international" not "domestic" meaning the PR diaspora is included in this total.

2. Texas is a bit different. Population growth in Texas is actually mostly driven by the high birth rate (the state has added almost 1.5 million new residents in the past seven years due to this). Migration plays a smaller role - the total number of people migrating to Texas over the past seven years is 300,000 less despite Texas being a smaller state. The migration Texas gets is more heavily domestic than international these days (which makes sense - Mexican immigration to the U.S. has dropped like a rock). IIRC most domestic migrants to Texas are from elsewhere in the South or the West - the state does not attract significant numbers of people from the Northeast or Midwest. It also tends to attract people of all age levels - it's not a retiree magnet like Florida (or Arizona).
Huh? If you look at actual data Texas has a higher birth rate and is younger, but in some years it’s raw number domestic migration number eclipses Florida. Size has nothing to do with domestic migration. California has a net out domestic migration.

Florida has a higher international migration for sure.
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