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Old 04-02-2018, 03:26 PM
 
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I don't really look at land area stats. I just never thought in my mind that Columbus would have the population that it does. And it's growing like crazy!
Did you think Jacksonville would have almost 900,000?
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Old 04-02-2018, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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In El Paso's case, the metro population isn't much higher than that. As a MSA it's not even the largest on the Rio Grande in Texas - that would be McAllen-Edinburg-Mission aka the Rio Grande "Valley."
And it's opposite in the case of Tucson. When you add in the part of Pima County that is actually nothing but an extension of Tucson the population is right at one million.
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Old 04-02-2018, 03:52 PM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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Columbus Ohio 860k why the city not on map like San Francisco same population
Ever been to Columbus? It's about as nondescript as it gets. Even by Ohio standards it's nondescript. Can't really say the same for San Francisco.
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Old 04-02-2018, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Avondale, Chicago
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And it's opposite in the case of Tucson. When you add in the part of Pima County that is actually nothing but an extension of Tucson the population is right at one million.
In most places the MSA will be a county or group of counties, but in Tucson and some other Western metros it seems a little less neatly defined. In Pima County's case, it's huge and a lot of it is federal land or Indian reservation, with Pinal County being generally closer to Tucson than west Pima County. Further muddying the picture is Pinal being counted in Phoenix's MSA.

Probably the most accurate way to look at Tucson is as an urbanized area of continuous Census blocks above a certain minimum-level density. By that standard, Tucson is #52 between Oklahoma City and El Paso.
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Old 04-02-2018, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Sacramento CA
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Atlanta proper.
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Old 04-02-2018, 09:04 PM
 
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The city boundaries are extremely variant from city to city, which is why it makes no sense to compare them. There are some like Minneapolis, Boston, and Pittsburgh which have small city limits from historical reasons.

and then there are some like Columbus or Indianapolis or Jacksonville which basically annexed their entire county. They are technically cities, but most of the area within city boundaries were/are suburbs in built form and density. For example Columbus has 4 times the land area of Minneapolis, and is much less dense and urban. Jacksonville has FOURTEEN TIMES the land area of Minneapolis, and is far less dense and urban. You cannot compare cities by their paper boundaries and expect to get anything that makes sense.

MSAs are supposed to be standarized to use fo comparion, and are much better than using city boundaries, but of course they have their own problems. Some people like using Urbanized Area, which is really the urban + suburban areas.
Jax was a city of 200k before they annexed their ENTIRE COUNTY (with a couple tiny exceptions) back in the 1960s. This propelled them to the largest city in the state where they remain today.
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Old 04-02-2018, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Northeast states
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Ever been to Columbus? It's about as nondescript as it gets. Even by Ohio standards it's nondescript. Can't really say the same for San Francisco.
Never been what it like there ? I hear some parts are bad and football is big there
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Old 04-02-2018, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, Commonwealth of Virginia
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It's due to the weird MSA rules that seem to change case by case. Orlando's "metro area" is over 4000 square miles and includes coastal areas like Daytona Beach. An MSA is supposed to entail places where residents and commerce of those outlying areas are reliant on the main component city, which is very much not the case for Orlando.
Orlando's MSA does not include Daytona Beach.
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Old 04-02-2018, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Western Asia
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For me it were the following cities:

El Paso, TX - Almost 700,000 (thought it was a lot smaller)

Tucosn, AZ - 500,000 ( thought it was a lot smaller )

Orlando, FL - 270,000 ( thought it was a lot bigger).
Greenville, SC has a population of 58K in the 2010 census and it feels closer to a million.


phoenix doesn't seem that hectic and has a population of 1.5M+
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Old 04-03-2018, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Greater Boston (Formerly Orlando and New York)
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Boston.. It feels like a city that would be 1.1 -1.4 million but its small border sizes only allow so many people.


I thought Miami would have 750-800k and Jersey City would have 400-500k.
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