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Old 04-18-2018, 08:11 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Again, the question is how far back do we need to go? I understand there are buttons to call postwar neighborhoods old money.

Using Charlotte, for example:

https://www.redfin.com/NC/Charlotte/...m_content=link

This house was clearly built for moneyed people, in the 1920s. There are many others like it. I would be willing to call that an old money neighborhood. It is likely that the great-grandchildren of the original owners are adults, now.
I am not using that as an example. But I saw several posts of what looked like upscale suburban tract housing (Toll Brothers, Ryan Homes, etc.) that is not old money.

That is a beautiful home, so yes enclaves do exist, I just don't think Charlotte and old money go together like how NYC, PHL, BOS and some others do.
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Old 04-18-2018, 08:19 AM
 
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I am not using that as an example. But I saw several posts of what looked like upscale suburban tract housing (Toll Brothers, Ryan Homes, etc.) that is not old money.

That is a beautiful home, I would call that upper middle class for sure, I don't know about old money though.
I think upper-middle-class is a fairly modern concept? The truly wealthy, as we think of it today was an exceedingly small group. A typical city wouldn’t have more than 3 families that would qualify...surely not enough for full neighborhoods of them. Today’s upper middle class is prewar rich.
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Old 04-18-2018, 09:11 AM
 
Location: North Caroline
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I am not using that as an example. But I saw several posts of what looked like upscale suburban tract housing (Toll Brothers, Ryan Homes, etc.) that is not old money.

That is a beautiful home, so yes enclaves do exist, I just don't think Charlotte and old money go together like how NYC, PHL, BOS and some others do.

Of course not. Charlotte is obviously a relatively younger city than many in the Northeast, and as such, the money is not as "old." But I don't think anyone said that Charlotte and old money are as synonymous as say, NYC and old money. Just that there are "old-money" enclaves, nonetheless, that were clearly built for moneyed people and remain as such.

On another note, which posts in particular looked like Toll Brothers homes? I am not disagreeing with you, I just haven't taken too close a look at everything.
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Old 04-18-2018, 09:26 AM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I'd also add Mississippi River Boulevard (Mac-Groveland area), it's always over shadowed by the more popular Summit Ave. Granted there are new houses popping up on Mississippi River Blvd so there is some "new money" looking homes, but there are a lot of old victorian houses as well that were clearly built in the 1920's/30's

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9291...7i13312!8i6656
Those houses are not all "old" old. We checked out a few that were for sale once when visiting there, they were built in the 1950s. Sure, they were big, especially for 50s houses, and on large lots.
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Old 04-18-2018, 10:41 AM
 
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Not sure if it's been posted already, but Hancock Park in LA. LA is a newer city, so I think sometimes people forget there really are old money neighborhoods there. A lot of movies are filmed in the neighborhood to be a suburban east coast neighborhood due to the older style homes.

https://goo.gl/maps/BYWv8pWmofr
https://goo.gl/maps/7bSdTSCb3eq
https://goo.gl/maps/TLnFNV3Q8K32
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Old 04-18-2018, 11:03 AM
 
Location: North Caroline
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Not sure if it's been posted already, but Hancock Park in LA. LA is a newer city, so I think sometimes people forget there really are old money neighborhoods there. A lot of movies are filmed in the neighborhood to be a suburban east coast neighborhood due to the older style homes.

https://goo.gl/maps/BYWv8pWmofr
https://goo.gl/maps/7bSdTSCb3eq
https://goo.gl/maps/TLnFNV3Q8K32
Beautiful homes, and yes I'd definitely consider that to be a neighborhood similar to the others in this thread even though LA is a "newer" city. Any other great ones in California that are similar, besides Pacific Heights? Perhaps those in the Pasadena area?
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Old 04-18-2018, 11:10 AM
 
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Those houses are not all "old" old. We checked out a few that were for sale once when visiting there, they were built in the 1950s. Sure, they were big, especially for 50s houses, and on large lots.
Lack of sidewalk is a telltale sign.
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Old 04-18-2018, 11:33 AM
 
Location: The City
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Old 04-18-2018, 11:45 AM
 
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Beautiful homes, and yes I'd definitely consider that to be a neighborhood similar to the others in this thread even though LA is a "newer" city. Any other great ones in California that are similar, besides Pacific Heights? Perhaps those in the Pasadena area?
Pasadena does have a similar area.
https://goo.gl/maps/8G3TokzoSWL2
https://goo.gl/maps/5BihrRuzgev

West Adams used to be money money money, it was bad for a while, but it's making a strong resurgence thanks to the beautiful old homes and proximity to DTLA.
https://goo.gl/maps/nk2L9Lc1jGJ2
https://goo.gl/maps/dToJpS31ipR2

Not sure if it would be considered old money or not since SoCal is just so new compared to the rest of the US development, Coronado Island in San Diego.
https://goo.gl/maps/xtCENaLgSd52
https://goo.gl/maps/eRuELxsUX2L2

Piedmont in the Bay Area
https://goo.gl/maps/8xaKyVHXDAB2
https://goo.gl/maps/HPXdjiHAWnp

St. Francis Woods in SF
https://goo.gl/maps/gAk3AVBMhNL2
https://goo.gl/maps/dw4DUuXsRio
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Old 04-18-2018, 02:59 PM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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Pasadena does have a similar area.
https://goo.gl/maps/8G3TokzoSWL2
https://goo.gl/maps/5BihrRuzgev

West Adams used to be money money money, it was bad for a while, but it's making a strong resurgence thanks to the beautiful old homes and proximity to DTLA.
https://goo.gl/maps/nk2L9Lc1jGJ2
https://goo.gl/maps/dToJpS31ipR2

Not sure if it would be considered old money or not since SoCal is just so new compared to the rest of the US development, Coronado Island in San Diego.
https://goo.gl/maps/xtCENaLgSd52
https://goo.gl/maps/eRuELxsUX2L2

Piedmont in the Bay Area
https://goo.gl/maps/8xaKyVHXDAB2
https://goo.gl/maps/HPXdjiHAWnp

St. Francis Woods in SF
https://goo.gl/maps/gAk3AVBMhNL2
https://goo.gl/maps/dw4DUuXsRio
In the Bay Area, I would add communities like Hillsborough, Burlingame, Woodside and Atherton.
In the Los Angeles area, definitely Pasadena and West Adams. I'll add San Marino.
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