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Old 04-13-2018, 01:51 PM
 
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I think the term could be used in relation to the area as well. So, I don’t know if it has a strict definition.

I think with this thread, it is one of those things in terms of the neighborhoods of “you recognize it when you see it” type of thing. Meaning, the type of character the homes and neighborhood has.
It’s definitely relative to the rest of the city. There are some cities that might be new enough to not have a significant amount of old money. If we’re using a rolling scale, I’d say four generations of affluence put you comfortably within the realm of old money. If we are using a fixed date or era, I’d say anything before the great depression qualifies.
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Old 04-13-2018, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Mobile,Al(the city by the bay)
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Amazing tree cover.
Majority of the town is covered in oaks. There a few others but the tree coverage make it hard to see.
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Old 04-13-2018, 01:56 PM
 
Location: North Caroline
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Tongue in cheek. Even so I associate the term with money made in pre—industrial times, like the South Carolina planters and the Salem Mass China trade families or the New York Knickerbocker aristocracy. In that context, new money is all the fortunes made after the civil war by the parvenues— Jay Gould, Averell Harriman, Andrew Carnegie, John D. Rockefeller, and so on. That’s all long enough ago so that Rockefeller now seems like old money to just about everyone in comparison to, say, Marc Zuckerberg or Jeff Bezos. So you’re right. And, of course, that tobacco money in NC goes back far enough to have built Duke University, itself no newcomer. Still— Charlotte? Old money? Looking at street view images of the neighborhoods he cites I see the same boxy brick developer-built houses you’d find in any upscale southern suburb. NC should embrace its history — a “vale of humility between two mountains of conceit.”
"Same boxy brick developer-built houses you'd find in any upscale southern suburb."

Please stop with your ignorance. I don't know what you may have against Charlotte or NC as a whole, but Myers Park is anything but a generic suburb. Earle Sumner Draper, the same man who helped designed other historic districts such as Druid Hills in Atlanta and Hayes Barton in Raleigh, also oversaw the planning for Myers Park Myers Park Neighborhood Guide. I doubt anyone who has actually been to these neighborhoods would call them generic. In the meantime, perhaps you should brush up on your history.


Anyways, here are some houses in Myers Park:

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1897...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1908...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1871...7i13312!8i6656
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Old 04-13-2018, 02:04 PM
 
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"Same boxy brick developer-built houses you'd find in any upscale southern suburb."

Please stop with your ignorance. I don't know what you may have against Charlotte or NC as a whole, but Myers Park is anything but a generic suburb. Earle Sumner Draper, the same man who helped designed other historic districts such as Druid Hills in Atlanta and Hayes Barton in Raleigh, also oversaw the planning for Myers Park Myers Park Neighborhood Guide. I doubt anyone who has actually been to these neighborhoods would call them generic. In the meantime, perhaps you should brush up on your history.


Anyways, here are some houses in Myers Park:

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1897...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1908...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1871...7i13312!8i6656
To be fair, one needs a decent amount of familiarity with Charlotte to find the old money areas. I had probably been there five or six times before I saw one. My best friend lives there, so I went down, and ran a half marathon with him, and the course went through some gorgeous areas that I would otherwise have never seen.
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Old 04-13-2018, 02:14 PM
 
Location: North Caroline
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To be fair, one needs a decent amount of familiarity with Charlotte to find the old money areas. I had probably been there five or six times before I saw one. My best friend lives there, so I went down, and ran a half marathon with him, and the course went through some gorgeous areas that I would otherwise have never seen.

Agreed, but then perhaps it's best to refrain from speaking on matters in which we are clueless about.
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Old 04-13-2018, 02:17 PM
 
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"Same boxy brick developer-built houses you'd find in any upscale southern suburb."

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Myers Park is 1920s at the earliest. Twentieth century money made by Babbitts and similar boosters and speclators in the twenties and likely lost in the ensuing crash. Hardly ‘old money.’
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Old 04-13-2018, 02:19 PM
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It’s definitely relative to the rest of the city. There are some cities that might be new enough to not have a significant amount of old money. If we’re using a rolling scale, I’d say four generations of affluence put you comfortably within the realm of old money. If we are using a fixed date or era, I’d say anything before the great depression qualifies.
How dos anyone know that four generations of the same family have lived in these houses, in Pittsburgh or any other city?
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Old 04-13-2018, 02:30 PM
 
Location: North Caroline
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Myers Park is 1920s at the earliest. Twentieth century money made by Babbitts and similar boosters and speclators in the twenties and likely lost in the ensuing crash. Hardly ‘old money.’
THE GROWTH OF CHARLOTTE: A HISTORY

Do you know anything about Charlotte? Or are you just a troll? The city already had an extensive manufacturing base of textiles and other industries by the late 1800s...
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Old 04-13-2018, 02:39 PM
 
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The Battery in Charleston
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Old 04-13-2018, 02:45 PM
 
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How dos anyone know that four generations of the same family have lived in these houses, in Pittsburgh or any other city?
It does't matter if we know the current inhabitants. If the neighborhood was clearly built for people with money, and the majority of the homes are over 80 years old, it's an old money neighborhood. I don't know why you're being pedantic. It only serves to derail the conversation.
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