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Old 04-11-2018, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Miami-Jax
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If you could have a second home somewhere with a population between 100k and 1M where would you choose and why? So not interested in small towns or big cities but ideally small cities with a big city feel. Could be a place you'd spend some time in throughout the year, or a seasonal destination. I personally care about walkability, artistic amenities, and good food. (but you do not have to be bound by my preferences)

For me it would probably be Charleston year round (well maybe not summertime) or Portland, ME in the summer. ABQ, Tulsa, Asheville all intrigue me but I've never been. Larger coastal towns like Santa Barbara probably would be great but I am not familiar with many of them. Ditto the common "lake houses" up north. Curious to hear others' thoughts.
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Old 04-11-2018, 07:23 PM
 
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Pretty much any smaller mountain town in Colorado or Idaho for me. Boulder would be acceptable, strictly because of your population requirements. Access to the great outdoors, four seasons, Snow, mountains, etc...is just amazing. I’d say so far, Estes Park, CO is still my favorite place I’ve ever been.

I could also see myself settling down in a nice lake house along the Michigan coast
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Old 04-12-2018, 06:44 AM
 
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If you could have a second home somewhere with a population between 100k and 1M where would you choose and why? So not interested in small towns or big cities but ideally small cities with a big city feel. Could be a place you'd spend some time in throughout the year, or a seasonal destination. I personally care about walkability, artistic amenities, and good food. (but you do not have to be bound by my preferences)
You really need to check out Asheville. Although under your population requirement of 100K, it's very walkable, artsy and has a food scene that rivals cities many times it's size.
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Old 04-12-2018, 07:08 AM
 
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You really need to check out Asheville. Although under your population requirement of 100K, it's very walkable, artsy and has a food scene that rivals cities many times it's size.
I'm curious if the population criteria is for the metro or city proper, as Portland ME is under 100k as well.


As for a place that would fit, I dare say that Ann Arbor MI. People may not consider it to the degree of other places mentioned so far though.

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Old 04-12-2018, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Bellingham, WA
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To ckhthankgod's point, I assume that your population parameters are a little flexible and include the metro area. Anyway, I share the same preferences as you, except that I've always wanted that place to be my primary residence and not a second home.

I would definitely suggest Asheville, as well, and it makes an especially nice contrast for a Floridian, hence much of its popularity. When I lived in Western NC it was definitely the spot for me, and I always thought that the many people I ran into that had places in AVL and Charleston were doing it right.

After living big city CO (Denver) and mountain town CO (No Name/Glenwood Springs) we looked for cities in the west that satisfied many of your requirements, and the list included Flagstaff AZ, Santa Fe NM (over ABQ), Missoula MT, Eugene OR, Bend OR, Ft. Collins CO (over Boulder) and Bellingham WA where I currently reside. In fact, Bellingham in many ways reminded us of Asheville twenty years ago.

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Old 04-12-2018, 08:10 AM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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You really need to check out Asheville. Although under your population requirement of 100K, it's very walkable, artsy and has a food scene that rivals cities many times it's size.
Definitely.

I'm also thinking of medium-sized college towns like Chapel Hill, Charlottesville, Ann Arbor, Madison, Syracuse, Missoula, Northampton or Athens.

Some other small cities that IME punch above their weight:

Annapolis, MD
Frederick, MD
Chattanooga, TN
Naples, FL
Santa Fe, NM
Traverse City, MI
Savannah, GA
Des Moines, IA
Portland, ME
Spokane, WA
Lexington, KY
Greenville, SC
Columbia, SC
Tyler, TX

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Old 04-12-2018, 09:57 AM
 
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Burlington, VT
Lafayette, LA
Wilmington, NC
Fayetteville, AR
Hagerstown, MD
Spartanburg, SC
Charleston, WV
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Old 04-12-2018, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Miami-Jax
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You really need to check out Asheville. Although under your population requirement of 100K, it's very walkable, artsy and has a food scene that rivals cities many times it's size.
Ok ok I believe you! Haha, I definitely need to visit. Seems like AVL is super popular from these responses.

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Although under your population requirement of 100K, it's very walkable, artsy and has a food scene that rivals cities many times it's size.
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I'm curious if the population criteria is for the metro or city proper, as Portland ME is under 100k as well.
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To ckhthankgod's point, I assume that your population parameters are a little flexible and include the metro area.
Population requirement wasn't strict, nor was it referring to "city" limits but MSA or Urban area if you prefer. I would have included Honolulu since it meets my "not strict" parameters, but I figured that was kinda obvious/cheating. Few people would not want a second home in HNL lol.

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Anyway, I share the same preferences as you, except that I've always wanted that place to be my primary residence and not a second home.

I would definitely suggest Asheville, as well, and it makes an especially nice contrast for a Floridian, hence much of its popularity. When I lived in Western NC it was definitely the spot for me, and I always thought that the many people I ran into that had places in AVL and Charleston were doing it right.

After living big city CO (Denver) and mountain town CO (No Name/Glenwood Springs) we looked for cities in the west that satisfied many of your requirements, and the list included Flagstaff AZ, Santa Fe NM (over ABQ), Missoula MT, Eugene OR, Bend OR, Ft. Collins CO (over Boulder) and Bellingham WA where I currently reside. In fact, Bellingham in many ways reminded us of Asheville twenty years ago.
Interesting that you've actually already done this research haha. Yeah we are different cause I definitely want the big city most of the time, but something a bit less is nice from time to time. Yeah Santa Fe, Eugene and Bend have also intrigued me from a distance. Does Bellingham have a nice downtown?

I like Ann Arbor and Chapel Hill although I tend to clump them into larger MSAs/CSAs, which may be a mistake.

Definitely also have had many of the other cities mentioned on my "radar" as very pleasant, nice places to live. But the thing is, eg places like Des Moines, Chattanooga, Greenville, Fayetteville...although they seem perfectly nice overall, I feel like what I'm going for is sort of a destination, capture your imagination, type of locale. Some kind of top-tier natural setting (ocean, major lakes, mountains, etc) or world-class history/architecture/events. And those places don't really strike me in that way. What do you think? Am I mistaken?
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Old 04-12-2018, 12:26 PM
 
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In that case Ithaca NY would fit as well.

Also, what about an area like Watertown NY that fits the population criteria? Things are a bit more limited in Watertown itself(has art council, more urban, etc.), but the area has smaller communities like Clayton, Alexandria Bay and Cape Vincent in the 1000 Islands Region and Sackets Harbor on Lake Ontario in the micro area that offer walkability, events, restaurants, art amenities/venues, etc. I’m asking in regards to similar areas as well.

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Old 04-12-2018, 12:28 PM
 
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Definitely also have had many of the other cities mentioned on my "radar" as very pleasant, nice places to live. But the thing is, eg places like Des Moines, Chattanooga, Greenville, Fayetteville...although they seem perfectly nice overall, I feel like what I'm going for is sort of a destination, capture your imagination, type of locale. Some kind of top-tier natural setting (ocean, major lakes, mountains, etc) or world-class history/architecture/events. And those places don't really strike me in that way. What do you think? Am I mistaken?
In that case, I suppose your list would be limited to the likes of Charleston, Savannah, Asheville, Santa Fe, Burlington, etc. Others that haven't been mentioned are San Luis Obispo, CA, Marquette, MI, and Troy, NY.
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