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View Poll Results: Are these 11 cities each North or South?
Kansas City, Mo. - It's in the North 108 67.92%
Kansas City, Mo. - It's in the South 23 14.47%
Saint Louis - It's in the North 110 69.18%
Saint Louis - It's in the South 25 15.72%
Cairo, Illinois - It's in the North 59 37.11%
Cairo, Illinois - It's in the South 66 41.51%
Louisville - It's in the North 18 11.32%
Louisville - It's in the South 125 78.62%
Cincinnati - It's in the North 118 74.21%
Cincinnati - It's in the South 18 11.32%
Charleston, West Virginia - It's in the North 21 13.21%
Charleston, West Virginia - It's in the South 115 72.33%
Pittsburgh - It's in the North 138 86.79%
Pittsburgh - It's in the South 1 0.63%
Northern Virginia - It's in the North 81 50.94%
Northern Virginia - It's in the South 61 38.36%
Washington, D.C. - It's in the North 109 68.55%
Washington, D.C. - It's in the South 38 23.90%
Baltimore - It's in the North 113 71.07%
Baltimore - It's in the South 30 18.87%
Wilmington, Delaware - It's in the North 122 76.73%
Wilmington, Delaware - It's in the South 9 5.66%
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Old 04-23-2018, 12:10 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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What constitutes southern culture? Grits? Pickup trucks? Moonshine? Baptist churches? Confederate flags? Molasses? Cornbread? NASCAR?


What about northern culture? Hockey? Maple syrup? Wineries? Apple Cider? Catholic or old-line protestant churches? Ivy League? Trout fishing?


What triggers do you use to say a place is North or South? Do you give more weight to one thing over another?
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Old 04-23-2018, 12:29 AM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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What constitutes southern culture? Grits? Pickup trucks? Moonshine? Baptist churches? Confederate flags? Molasses? Cornbread? NASCAR?


What about northern culture? Hockey? Maple syrup? Wineries? Apple Cider? Catholic or old-line protestant churches? Ivy League? Trout fishing?


What triggers do you use to say a place is North or South? Do you give more weight to one thing over another?
Molasses and trucks aren't really exclusive to north/south. I mean, none of that truly is but those things especially aren't.

That said It's a long nuanced list but the key features are accents, dominant politics, climatic origin, and yes, Baptist vs Catholic is a fairly heavy indicator.

I'd say the thing people notice first and foremost is accents.

Another contributor in many areas is the dominant local architecture. As well as rural black population in some cases (generally more deep south). The number of available country music stations could be a factor (there really are more in the south).

Though losing its exclusivity more over time, cuisine is still a factor. Sweet tea is much more widely available in southern areas. In general more southern dishes are spicy and heavy as opposed to popular northern food which tends to be more acidic and herbal (highly Italianized) or cold-cut based. In my experience fruit pie is much more popular in the north where thick syrupy pie is more popular in the south (Pecan being a famous example).

Population density tends to be more spread in the south whereas most northern people live in close-quartered metros.

You did hit on a fair one with mentioning wineries. There's no doubt that wine versus whiskey is a factor.

Despite the south being highly religious I do feel as though there are more varieties of churches in the north.

Traditionally there's a more sarcastic and skeptical nature to northern culture (not always in an unfriendly way, mind) and a more immediately warm and welcoming yet keeping you at an arm's length nature to southern culture. Both are equally judgmental in their own ways. Northerners tend to wear their feelings on their sleeves, whereas southerners will more likely put on a friendly face for the sake of it.

Just a few things off the top of the ol' dome.
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Old 04-23-2018, 12:59 AM
 
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I guessed the "popular opinion" for all of them except Missouri!
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Old 04-23-2018, 05:27 AM
 
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West Virginia is literally a state only for leaving the South. Appalachia may be its own not Northern or Southern thing. If West Virginia were a Southern state it wouldn't be called West Virginia it would be called the Western part of Virginia.
Huh??????
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Old 04-23-2018, 06:32 AM
 
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Huh??????
West Virginia would have had no reason to remove itself from the rest of the state if it was a Southern state.
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Old 04-23-2018, 06:55 AM
 
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West Virginia would have had no reason to remove itself from the rest of the state if it was a Southern state.
That's only if you consider inclusion in the Confederacy as the sole qualifier to being Southern, and it's not; after all, Kentucky is a Southern state that never seceded. There's a reason why Confederate sympathies were generally lower in regions of the South that were not as dependent on slave labor.
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Old 04-23-2018, 06:59 AM
 
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If NOVA is the North then what's the South? Only the area electrified by the TVA?
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Old 04-23-2018, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn the best borough in NYC!
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What constitutes southern culture? Grits? Pickup trucks? Moonshine? Baptist churches? Confederate flags? Molasses? Cornbread? NASCAR?


What about northern culture? Hockey? Maple syrup? Wineries? Apple Cider? Catholic or old-line protestant churches? Ivy League? Trout fishing?


What triggers do you use to say a place is North or South? Do you give more weight to one thing over another?
Your first paragraph pretty much described all of South Carolina outside Myrtle Beach and Charleston lol
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Old 04-23-2018, 07:20 AM
 
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If NOVA is the North then what's the South? Only the area electrified by the TVA?
A lot of people in this area say: anything below Prince William or Stafford Counties.

Definitely Fredericksburg.
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Old 04-23-2018, 07:25 AM
 
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A lot of people in this area say: anything below Prince William or Stafford Counties.

Definitely Fredericksburg.
My general rule is if your signature dish is deep fried or BBQ it's Southern.

So that puts the line right around Harve De Grace MD, and the Eastern Shore or MD is Southern while the DE Bay side with DE is not.
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