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Old 04-20-2018, 01:02 AM
 
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The factors are loose alcohol laws (late or no last call, open containers allowed), loose smoking laws (bars/clubs allowed to allow smoking), and any other miscellaneous things that I haven't mentioned (maybe pertaining to strip clubs?).

Vegas is probably the best US city for this, but do any others come to mind?
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:44 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado
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I was about to say Vegas but you beat me to it with your own post

The next I could think of would be Portland, Oregon... Fully nude strip bars with fairly attractive strippers that serve booze and food. As well, Oregon has legal recreational weed. However, there is no smoking in the bars though.. Supposedly, Portland has the highest number of strip joints per capita and have strip joints to cater for every price bracket, ranging from dingy Mary's Club to the high end Stars Cabaret. I think even many Libertarians (I am one of them) enjoy that I don't have to choke to death on smoke in bars. Although, the Libertarian in me does believe that the government shouldn't be the one enforcing the rules, but let each establishment choose whether or not it wants a smoky environment or not. Another Libertarian bonus of Portland is that you can actually carry guns in a bar legally; although, this is ill-advised if you are drinking. Of course , the ultra radical leftists who moved to Oregon after 2000 in droves from the SF Bay Area are doing what they can to destroy all of Oregon's personal freedoms and liberties; so enjoy them while you can.

Oregon and Washington also have a lot of Indian casinos where the rules are pretty much Vegas like and many are located quite close to the cities. For example, I believe Seattle has like a dozen casinos within an hour drive and some that are within 30 minutes. Portland, also would be similar with Indian casinos.

If alcohol is your only concern, then I hear Nashville and Austin have pretty loose alcohol laws and the bars stay open until 4AM (in Nashville). As well, there is a stellar music scene. I heard that Tennessee has looser open container laws.. I'd bet you would see plenty of people chugging booze walking down the street on a Saturday night in Nashville, but I can be wrong.. I have yet to visit these places, but have done a lot of reading and research about them.
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:54 AM
 
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I was about to say Vegas but you beat me to it with your own post

The next I could think of would be Portland, Oregon... Fully nude strip bars with fairly attractive strippers that serve booze and food. As well, Oregon has legal recreational weed. However, there is no smoking in the bars though.. Supposedly, Portland has the highest number of strip joints per capita and have strip joints to cater for every price bracket, ranging from dingy Mary's Club to the high end Stars Cabaret. I think even many Libertarians (I am one of them) enjoy that I don't have to choke to death on smoke in bars. Although, the Libertarian in me does believe that the government shouldn't be the one enforcing the rules, but let each establishment choose whether or not it wants a smoky environment or not. Another Libertarian bonus of Portland is that you can actually carry guns in a bar legally; although, this is ill-advised if you are drinking. Of course , the ultra radical leftists who moved to Oregon after 2000 in droves from the SF Bay Area are doing what they can to destroy all of Oregon's personal freedoms and liberties; so enjoy them while you can.

Oregon and Washington also have a lot of Indian casinos where the rules are pretty much Vegas like and many are located quite close to the cities. For example, I believe Seattle has like a dozen casinos within an hour drive and some that are within 30 minutes. Portland, also would be similar with Indian casinos.

If alcohol is your only concern, then I hear Nashville and Austin have pretty loose alcohol laws and the bars stay open until 4AM (in Nashville). As well, there is a stellar music scene. I heard that Tennessee has looser open container laws.. I'd bet you would see plenty of people chugging booze walking down the street on a Saturday night in Nashville, but I can be wrong.. I have yet to visit these places, but have done a lot of reading and research about them.
Portland sounds like a pretty cool place!

I understand you prefer non smoky places, but like you said, it should be up to the business owner. Even in a smoking friendly city, there will be a lot of places that either don't allow smoking or have good ventilation systems. The libertarian system lets you decide, while the authoritarian system only lets you have their way.

I believe part of Memphis, TN allows open container, but there may be some caveats to that. I think that New Orleans and Vegas (possibly all of Nevada) are the only places where open containers are allowed with few caveats.
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Old 04-20-2018, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC
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Portland sounds like a pretty cool place!

I understand you prefer non smoky places, but like you said, it should be up to the business owner. Even in a smoking friendly city, there will be a lot of places that either don't allow smoking or have good ventilation systems. The libertarian system lets you decide, while the authoritarian system only lets you have their way.

I believe part of Memphis, TN allows open container, but there may be some caveats to that. I think that New Orleans and Vegas (possibly all of Nevada) are the only places where open containers are allowed with few caveats.
Savannah, GA allows "to-go" cups for your alcohol, and you can drink in the streets as well. However, I believe there's a size limit.
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Old 04-20-2018, 10:46 AM
 
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Itís interesting how Nevada went from having really, really strict penalties for small quantities of marijuana, to full recreational.

New Orleans is probably the next most permissive nightlife city. While New York nightlife has a lot of rules and regulations, it has a late last call and the most open cocaine use Iíve ever seen.
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Old 04-20-2018, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Mars City
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Libertarian nightlife sounds like shooting range clubs and book cafes dedicated to Ayn Rand.
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:00 PM
 
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Itís interesting how Nevada went from having really, really strict penalties for small quantities of marijuana, to full recreational.

New Orleans is probably the next most permissive nightlife city. While New York nightlife has a lot of rules and regulations, it has a late last call and the most open cocaine use Iíve ever seen.
Yet there is still nowhere for tourists to legally smoke marijuana

And yeah, lots of open coke use in NY! That would probably be the case in Vegas too, but they have employees standing inside the bathrooms.
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:10 PM
 
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Portland is definitely up there - fully nude strippers are allowed at your local neighborhood corner bar, slot machines are legal and found in every dive bar (which Portland has in spades), etc. It's a very permissive environment.
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Old 04-20-2018, 09:42 PM
 
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If alcohol is your only concern, then I hear Nashville and Austin
NOT Austin. Bars close at 2 and usually last call is at 1:45, then they start picking up glasses at bottles at about 5 til 2. No open container in the streets either, door guys are strict about not letting anyone leave the bar with a drink in their hand, even of it is just water.
Plus there's no smoking in bars.

The first time I visited New Orleans the idea of a 'go cup' blew my mind.
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Old 04-21-2018, 03:20 PM
 
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Something that's interesting to me is that if you read the yelp reviews of places that allow smoking, there are often some people complaining that smoking is allowed or that the smoke isn't ventilated enough. The former of which is silly to me, because there are so many non-smoking places they could choose to go to instead.

But not with Vegas, all of the high end clubs there allow smoking to my knowledge and I never heard anyone complain about it in real life or on the yelp reviews. Is it because they have really good ventilation systems, or is it because it's accepted that it's part of the Vegas experience? The ventilation was pretty impressive though, I went into one place and I wasn't sure if smoking was allowed because I couldn't smell any cigarettes, but then a few minutes later I realized that smoking is allowed, which made me happy.
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