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Old 06-15-2019, 06:35 AM
 
Location: The South
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I see what you mean, but NM has changed from red to blue. It's really only a matter of time until TX is turned blue (and I, as a moderate, would hate to see that happen). FL is a swing state and has been for quite some time (though judging by the last election, there doesn't appear to be a serious movement for the liberal side that threatens the Republican side). AZ is still Republican though, like other southern states, appears to be turning blue due to increased amount of transplants.

That pretty much only leaves GA, AL, MS, LA, and AR (and if you aren't only referring to the deep/extreme south, TN, KN, OK, and MO too).

Basically what I'm saying is, wherever there's a heavy amount of transplants from liberal states, those transplant states have a good chance to turn blue in the future.
Yep, its horrible down here. Stay away, we are all racists, poor snaggle toothed deplorable, Confederate flag waving rednecks.
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Old 06-15-2019, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
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Sure doesn't feel that way in the Twin Cities.
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Old 06-15-2019, 07:28 AM
 
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I can tell you why I am moving back north (from Texas):


Better roads and infrastructure


You are definitely not moving to Michigan.
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Old 06-15-2019, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Boilermaker Territory
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Better, to you. And 80 at midnight is nothing. We're typically anywhere from 90 to 105 at that hour in July and August, though with low humidity. Just last night, I walked my dogs at midnight and it was 92°, humidity was just 9% (22° dewpoint) so didn't feel that bad
At the very minimum I prefer temperatures below 70 at midnight if there is humidity. I run the AC with dehumidifier and a fan.
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Old 06-15-2019, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Look, there's no ONE perfect region of the US for everyone. Clearly plenty of people love the southern states though, and love living here. Same with the other regions. I don't understand why anyone feels the need to put one region down in order to feel better about their own region. It's nothing more than personal preference after all.

Some people love the humidity (I would be one of those) and some people hate it. Some people love dry heat or dry cold and some people hate it. Some people prefer the northwest and others prefer the southeast. So the heck what?

People are moving south for a wide variety of reasons - some strictly financial and others strictly personal. So what? Let's not be intentionally obtuse about it though and pretend that it has to be only because of the cost of living, or whatever. Likewise, let's not be intentionally obtuse about the long hot summers - or the short mild winters. Clearly to some people the weather is a positive and to others it's a negative. So what?

It's all the US people, and I can only speak for myself but personally I'm really happy to live in a country that offers so many options.
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Old 06-15-2019, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Twin Cities
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Originally Posted by CCrest182 View Post
I see what you mean, but NM has changed from red to blue. It's really only a matter of time until TX is turned blue (and I, as a moderate, would hate to see that happen). FL is a swing state and has been for quite some time (though judging by the last election, there doesn't appear to be a serious movement for the liberal side that threatens the Republican side). AZ is still Republican though, like other southern states, appears to be turning blue due to increased amount of transplants.

That pretty much only leaves GA, AL, MS, LA, and AR (and if you aren't only referring to the deep/extreme south, TN, KN, OK, and MO too).

Basically what I'm saying is, wherever there's a heavy amount of transplants from liberal states, those transplant states have a good chance to turn blue in the future.
NM has been mostly blue for the last 2 decades from a state and national level. They only voted an R for prez once since 92 and their state house/senate have been controlled by the Ds for awhile. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politi..._in_New_Mexico

Florida's 3 branches of govt are red despite being a swing state. The liberals moving in are being outnumbered by retirees who don't want taxes and are fans of the 2nd Amendment. Besides even if they keep moving south and stupidly vote for the same left policies that turned their former areas into messes, all they're doing is diluting the liberal vote in those areas and turning them more red.

But even as someone who leans right, I stand by what I said earlier in this thread: the south is fool's gold unless you're retired, have your own business, or in a specific field. From utilities to food to rents, are you really saving a whole lot? The weather is overrated.
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Old 06-15-2019, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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From utilities to food to rents, are you really saving a whole lot?
Outside of the megalopolises, cost of living is real low. Low enough for a Wally Mart worker to afford buying a 'used' house and new car and still have a bit leftover.
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Old 06-15-2019, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Outside of the megalopolises, cost of living is real low. Low enough for a Wally Mart worker to afford buying a 'used' house and new car and still have a bit leftover.
How many Walmart workers are homeowners (management or corporate not included for obvious reasons)? I bet the answer is zero
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Old 06-15-2019, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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How many Walmart workers are homeowners (management or corporate not included for obvious reasons)? I bet the answer is zero
How many part time workers are homeowners? I ask because half of Walmart's workers are part time employees, whether they want to be or not.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-w...-idUSKCN1IQ295
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Old 06-15-2019, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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NM has been mostly blue for the last 2 decades from a state and national level. They only voted an R for prez once since 92 and their state house/senate have been controlled by the Ds for awhile. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politi..._in_New_Mexico

Florida's 3 branches of govt are red despite being a swing state. The liberals moving in are being outnumbered by retirees who don't want taxes and are fans of the 2nd Amendment. Besides even if they keep moving south and stupidly vote for the same left policies that turned their former areas into messes, all they're doing is diluting the liberal vote in those areas and turning them more red.

But even as someone who leans right, I stand by what I said earlier in this thread: the south is fool's gold unless you're retired, have your own business, or in a specific field. From utilities to food to rents, are you really saving a whole lot? The weather is overrated.
Ahh, I didn't think about it that way; retirees swaying the vote to red in FL. That makes sense. Also, the Cuban population is pretty conservative too, so south Floridian Cubans are I'm sure having an impact, as well as (obviously) the deep south voters in northern FL.

I just hope TX doesn't go blue. If we keep the electoral college and that happens, the Republican party on a national level would basically be doomed.
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