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Old 10-09-2018, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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Denver does have pretty bad air quality. It's partially due to the geography, the lack of rain, and the refineries / factories. The town will also smell like dog food / pee quite often as well.
Not over here - another reason not to live right in the metro area.

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Colorado Springs has the same geography and environment, yet the air quality is pretty good due to the lack of an O&G industry, factories, and lower congestion.
CS is 2500 feet higher than Denver and has only vaguely similar geography.
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Old 10-10-2018, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Denver
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Not over here - another reason not to live right in the metro area.
But then I'd be contributing to the ozone cloud to get to work instead of merely experiencing it .

CS is 2500 feet higher than Denver and has only vaguely similar geography.
Elevation wouldn't really matter, they both have mountains to the west and a bowl shaped geography, which can trap air in. That's why the air is better outside the city, because wind blows through without getting trapped.
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Old 10-10-2018, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon (in Transition)
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Interesting. Is it just Denver that has crappy air quality, or that whole area? What about Ft. Collins / Loveland? Boulder? Colorado Springs?
I remember the whole front range being sort of bad with Denver being the worse. The uptick in population (and cars) has only made matters worse. It has been a couple of years since I have been back, but I can only imagine.

Greeley has the boiled blood and cow poop smell occasionally to add insult to injury. I remember finding in interesting that Colorado required Greeleyites to do emissions testing on cars despite the relative car pollution being negligible compared to the Denver metro area. Also, what are the odds that Weld County's car pollution is that much higher than the other surrounding counties not needing emission testing. We all called it a money grab (and it really was).
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Old 10-10-2018, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Denver
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I remember the whole front range being sort of bad with Denver being the worse. The uptick in population (and cars) has only made matters worse. It has been a couple of years since I have been back, but I can only imagine.

Greeley has the boiled blood and cow poop smell occasionally to add insult to injury. I remember finding in interesting that Colorado required Greeleyites to do emissions testing on cars despite the relative car pollution being negligible compared to the Denver metro area. Also, what are the odds that Weld County's car pollution is that much higher than the other surrounding counties not needing emission testing. We all called it a money grab (and it really was).
CO Springs doesn't require emissions (unless it changed recently) either. It doesn't have a haze layer that Denver often has, except for wildfires or dust or something like that.
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Old 10-10-2018, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon (in Transition)
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CO Springs doesn't require emissions (unless it changed recently) either. It doesn't have a haze layer that Denver often has, except for wildfires or dust or something like that.
That doesn't make sense that a much larger metro of Colorado Springs requires no emission testing, but Greeley does. If the state is going to require emissions testing, it ought to be mandated either entirely across the state or only in the metro areas where accumulation of pollution is significant.
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Old 10-10-2018, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Elevation wouldn't really matter, they both have mountains to the west and a bowl shaped geography, which can trap air in. That's why the air is better outside the city, because wind blows through without getting trapped.
That's also why Florida cities have good air. Wind from the ocean, no topography to trap air. But there are hurricanes.
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Old 10-10-2018, 09:28 AM
 
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I'd say anywhere in Florida and the SE/Gulf Coast.
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Old 10-10-2018, 12:22 PM
 
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I moved to Denver from Charlotte, NC (2011-2016), but am originally from Houston, TX. I lived 2 years in Nacogdoches, TX (dinky college down in east Texas half-way between Houston and Texarkana).

My experience so far in Colorado is that cars appear to have emissions almost as bad as back in Charlotte, where half of the cars have ZERO emissions testing b/c they are registered in South Carolina. That + the surprisingly large petro-chemical industry presence right in the middle of the Denver Metro Bowl means that there is a ridiculous amount of smog. The dust and smoke from fires etc out west have made this past year even worse.

Part of why I started this thread was because in my travels I've been surprised at just how bad some cities are, specifically the ones which have a generally "green" and nature-focused public image / culture. Similar to how, when I traveled to the Pacific NW, cities like Portland and Seattle shocked me with the fact that I could never escape the smell of smoke / weed because, despite them having such a health-conscious image, turns out the whole region is filled with chain smokers of every variety.

One place I was actually quite surprised by in a positive way was Spartanburg, SC. Not a huge town, but the air out there was remarkably fresh and clear.
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Old 10-10-2018, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Metrowest Boston
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I've read that SLC has pretty terrible air. Whether or not that's true, I'm not sure.
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Old 10-10-2018, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Aurora, CO
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I've read that SLC has pretty terrible air. Whether or not that's true, I'm not sure.
It's true. Salt Lake gets terrible inversions in the winter.
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