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Old 10-11-2018, 11:22 AM
 
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L.A.. The air down here is more often than not in bad shape, year round. Day after day after day. I've lived in SLC, and overall it seemed The air was much cleaner there than here in L.A.,except for 2 months in winter.
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Old 10-13-2018, 12:34 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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I never knew Denver had a major petrochemical industry, have never associated it with that area and I've always viewed Denver as a very white collar city. Same with Charlotte and Atlanta.

I find New Orleans air quality to be surprisingly good in spite of the a heavy industrial presence including many refineries.

Miami does have excellent air quality because of its coastal location and flat land where the ocean breezes just blows the pollution away, in contrast to Los Angeles with the mountains on one side blocking the pollution from escaping. San Diego has much better air than L.A. though and its also located near mountains and desert.

Despite the dryness and desert location, Las Vegas seemed to have good air quality to me, with very little smog.

For NYC, overall yes there are far less emissions per person because of mass transit, etc, but when all that is concentrated in a small area the air quality can be pretty bad at street level. That's the thing with transit oriented development, overall you reduce emissions but those emissions are concentrated in smaller area where most people also live in!
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Old 10-13-2018, 06:45 AM
 
Location: Center City
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For many years, I worked in a high rise office building in downtown Houston. There was a pretty permanent brown haze that circled the city. This meant, of course, that it was also the air we all were breathing. Houston is crisscrossed with freeways, and the east side was chock full of refineries and chemical plants. Every once in a while the winds would shift coming into the city from the east. Locals used to describe the stench as “the smell of money.”

Since moving east to Philadelphia 7+ years ago, my allergies and coughing spells have pretty much disappeared.
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Old 10-13-2018, 07:00 AM
 
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Since moving east to Philadelphia 7+ years ago, my allergies and coughing spells have pretty much disappeared.
That's pretty amazing given the fairly poor level of air quality. I can recall while living there leaving windows open and having the white window sills become gray/black between cleaning every few days. Of course it's not allergies one should worry about I suppose, versus far worse damage to the lungs...

https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/20...-philadelphia/
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Old 10-13-2018, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Center City
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That's pretty amazing given the fairly poor level of air quality. I can recall while living there leaving windows open and having the white window sills become gray/black between cleaning every few days. Of course it's not allergies one should worry about I suppose, versus far worse damage to the lungs...

https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/20...-philadelphia/
Can’t say anything like that has come close to happening to us. I do know that you were never happy in the city, however.

So I haven’t heard of the PennEnvironment Research and Policy Center. It’s a local outfit which is probably trying to drive some sort of local agenda, since they are described as “environmental activists.” I don’t see national organizations validating the claims they’ve laid out in the local news spot, however. For example, the American Lung Association is usually the gold standard when it comes to evaluation of the air quality of metros across the US. In this year’s report, Philly is way down the list in two categories of pollutants, and completely missing from the third: https://www.lung.org/our-initiatives...ed-cities.html. Just for grins, Philly is also completely missing from CNBC’s list of the top 10 US cities with the worst air quality: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/19/u-s-...pollution.html.

None of this means Philadelpia’s air is as clean as, say, a northern Vermont meadow. It just indicates it is probably not as bad as the local activitists have sensationized it to be. In fact, this comes out of the same link you posted, though further down in the copy:

“The Philadelphia region is not alone. The study authors say 73 million Americans experienced more than 100 days of degraded air quality in 2016, which can lead to everything from sore throats to asthma attacks to premature death.”

It’s important to look behind the headlines and understand the criteria and metrics organizations use to reach their conclusions. As well as their politics.
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