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Old 01-26-2019, 10:27 AM
 
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I think he means there isnít a Hanover or Price Street in Chicago.
In what sense? Every city is different but from being on Hanover many times there are multiple nodes of dense walkable areas and streets with commercial surrounded by low rise residential.

Broadway for example, which is miles away from downtown

https://goo.gl/maps/rZ2VQJACf7K2
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Old 01-26-2019, 10:45 AM
 
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In what sense? Every city is different but from being on Hanover many times there are multiple nodes of dense walkable areas and streets with commercial surrounded by low rise residential.

Broadway for example, which is miles away from downtown

https://goo.gl/maps/rZ2VQJACf7K2
Nothing in Chicago feels as closed in as the North End you don’t have 18 foot streets bounded by 6 story buildings. Sidewalks only fit 1 person across etc.

I think that’s what he was getting at not that Boston has a bigger urban footprint because it doesn’t.
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Old 01-27-2019, 07:03 AM
 
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Nothing in Chicago feels as closed in as the North End you donít have 18 foot streets bounded by 6 story buildings. Sidewalks only fit 1 person across etc.

I think thatís what he was getting at not that Boston has a bigger urban footprint because it doesnít.
Chicago has sections that work like key intersections. But overall it booted a tenement-style city or predominately row-housing city looooong ago. Even Boston did early in moving to its Triple-Deckers.

Chicago definately has its commercial corridor streets. I like Clark St as a diagonal and not wide example .... running North from the Core.

Chicago never tried to be a Eastern-built city and never will. But does well in diverse architecture in its own making. In density it too maintains a good standard. But the WALL-EFFECT is much more confined to the Core. If you want a wall that is residential today in a downtown.

You can chose this
downtown in Printers-Row //Lincoln Park street not downtown.
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Old 01-27-2019, 07:33 AM
 
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Chicago has sections that work like key intersections. But overall it booted a tenement-style city or predominately row-housing city looooong ago. Even Boston did early in moving to its Triple-Deckers.

Chicago definately has its commercial corridor streets. I like Clark St as a diagonal and not wide example .... running North from the Core.

Chicago never tried to be a Eastern-built city and never will. But does well in diverse architecture in its own making. In density it too maintains a good standard. But the WALL-EFFECT is much more confined to the Core. If you want a wall that is residential today in a downtown.

You can chose this downtown in Printers-Row.
Yeah Chicago is much much larger. The place that is geographically equivalent to the North end in Chicago is a bunch of streets lined with 35 floor buildings.
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Old 01-30-2019, 03:33 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Residents don't do much for peak pedestrian traffic. The world is full of streets lined with 40-story apartments that aren't terribly active.

The visual should be good, and the retail will hopefully be enough to attract decent numbers.

If that's enough to tip the scales to create a tourist crowd even when there are no events, I'll be surprised.
First off LA Live is not the center of downtown Los Angeles. For some reason you continue to act like it is. Is it deserted during the day? No but clearly its crowds converge at night.
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Old 01-30-2019, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Nothing in Chicago feels as closed in as the North End you donít have 18 foot streets bounded by 6 story buildings. Sidewalks only fit 1 person across etc.
That's exactly what I meant.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzFCSW3_ZnI
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Old 01-30-2019, 01:23 PM
 
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First off LA Live is not the center of downtown Los Angeles. For some reason you continue to act like it is. Is it deserted during the day? No but clearly its crowds converge at night.
I've acted like it's at the center of DTLA? How?

My posts have said it's not a big tourist attraction, using its lack of daytime crowds as evidence.

But since you mention its location, it's easy to get to, which makes the lack of crowds more stark.
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Old 01-30-2019, 11:12 PM
 
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That's exactly what I meant.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzFCSW3_ZnI
Thanks for this! This is the type of neighbourhood that I love -- the narrow streets filled with mom and pop shops, very few cars driving around, very walkable and you are free to cross the street wherever you want, etc.
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Old 01-31-2019, 09:40 AM
 
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North End looks pretty cool. I need to visit Boston. Chicago may not have that, but they have the urban equivalent of the Grand Canyon: being on a river with skyscrapers on either side. Plus as someone above posted, Printer's Row is very dense and closed in for a few streets, at least.
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Old 02-01-2019, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Katy-zuela
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Midtown Manhattan isn't the actual downtown--that honor belongs to Lower Manhattan, the origin of NYC. (That's the most frequent mistake!). Not much activity in Downtown compared to Midtown!

S.F. Financial District is pretty dead after 7 PM. Even Union Square and Market Street likes to open late and close early. Seattle is only Pine Street, with the Nordstrom and Macy's as anchors. Philadelphia is pretty moribund, but is making a comeback.
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