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Old 10-12-2018, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Interesting comment. So which portions of DC do you NOT consider downtown?



Pretty much if it isnít in this frame (excluding Rosslyn), I donít really consider it the downtown (again. Downtown as in a general term and not the specific area called downtown).
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Old 10-12-2018, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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I love DC as much as ardent DC boosters but its laughable that DTDC is on another level from DTLA--->they are in that same second tier of downtowns...
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Old 10-12-2018, 07:46 AM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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So basically, a resounding no.

That’s not a real grocery store. Grocery stores don’t close at 6pm and 5pm on Sunday. So I just have a problem claiming a downtown is fully functional yet doesn’t even have a single grocery store....
I could have predicted this silly response verbatim.
Sweet Auburn Market is very much a full service grocery store (complete with pharmacy), as the pictures indicate, with added benefit of home grown produce. Oh, but it's not a Publix; well boo hoo frickin' hoo.
Crickets on the clothing store comment, I see.
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Old 10-12-2018, 08:14 AM
 
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I love DC as much as ardent DC boosters but its laughable that DTDC is on another level from DTLA--->they are in that same second tier of downtowns...
I hate these discussions because we can never agree on which neighborhoods constitute downtown. DC homers are overly generous.
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Old 10-12-2018, 08:27 AM
 
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I should have said as a percentage of the population, everyone knows about NYC's constant cranes, nonetheless:

https://www.seattletimes.com/busines...ill-leads-u-s/

Where is Philadelphia?
Oh come on. Just because RLB doesn't survey the cranes in Philadelphia doesn't mean there aren't cranes up there. My guess is there are about 12 or so cranes up now.
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Old 10-12-2018, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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I should have said as a percentage of the population, everyone knows about NYC's constant cranes, nonetheless:

https://www.seattletimes.com/busines...ill-leads-u-s/

Where is Philadelphia?
1. That article and statistic is bogus. Those crane numbers are literally made up.
2. No one counts development by the number of cranes they see.
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Old 10-12-2018, 08:45 AM
 
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Despite my city winning the RLB survey, I don't trust it either. They undercount New York, and omit Miami entirely.

It's an actual count, but they don't count everything.
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Old 10-12-2018, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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Despite my city winning the RLB survey, I don't trust it either. They undercount New York, and omit Miami entirely.

It's an actual count, but they don't count everything.
How would they even survey that in NYC, unless they file a FOIL request with NYC Department of Buildings (which they obviously don't)? Not even on construction forums do they know the true number for NYC cranes.
P.S. there are probably 18 cranes just in south Brooklyn alone... I am guessing RLB literally has a dude walking around Midtown, counting cranes within walking distance of his hotel.
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Old 10-12-2018, 09:00 AM
 
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They go through the crane suppliers. But I suspect they're omitting some companies.
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Old 10-12-2018, 09:05 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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I love DC as much as ardent DC boosters but its laughable that DTDC is on another level from DTLA--->they are in that same second tier of downtowns...
No they're not, DTLA has improved no doubt, but to insinuate that it compares to Downtown DC, is disrespectful to Downtown DC. There is a gap and then there is LA at the top of the next tier. I would know where to place Seattle better if I had actually been there, but I haven't. DTLA I am familiar with. It in absolutely every way shape or form is not on the same tier as Downtown Washington DC.

I'd place Downtown DC closer to European downtown's than I would place LA's downtown to DC. It's on the same tier as but above downtown's like Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, Miami etc.

I'm actaully shocked that someone as familiar with DC as you, that I assume understands where downtown DC is in 2018 would say that they are on the same tier today.
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