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Old 10-14-2018, 01:03 PM
 
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I would think that cities with a small city proper population core, and a big MSA population, would qualify. That's a great number of cities.
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Old 10-14-2018, 01:09 PM
 
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Dallas
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Old 10-14-2018, 04:43 PM
 
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All these cities spread to high heaven but I don't think any of them are decentralized like Dallas.
Look at the transportation maps for Houston, Atlanta, even LA and they zero on the central city. Dallas is undoubtedly the major core of the metro but the metro is certainly not built to center on Dallas.

The suburban cities in Dallas are far better integrated with the central cities than say in Houston.
For example the transportation system in Dallas is regional while in Houston all roads lead to downtown Houston and the buses don't usually venture outside the city limits. The airports, the sports stadiums, the major, parks, zoos, shopping areas, fancy restaurants etc are all aimed at the city, almost all the universities are around downtown. In Dallas on the other hand the better zoo is in Tarrant county, stadia are spread all over the place, the universities are spread, new hip clubs and restaurants pop up all over the metro.
Dallas still stands on its own, so it doesn't need to be the epicenter of anything. It's not Detroit or even Phoenix for that matter. It has its own zoo, aquarium, airport (Love Field), major shopping areas, hip clubs & restaurants, parks, major university near downtown, major concert venues, professional sports teams (NBA & NHL), museums, etc. I'm actually glad the suburbs here are their own thing, so Dallas city can focus on redirecting its public transit infrastructure to the inner city and also remove unnecessary highways (e.g. I-345). They don't need us and we don't need them.

It's quite amazing though despite Houston technically being more centralized, its urban development around Downtown is still further behind than Dallas's. Pedestrian infrastructure is also severely lacking in Houston compared to Dallas. However, I will give credit for their redesigned bus system. That is something being explored here, so bravo!
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Old 10-14-2018, 07:43 PM
 
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Probably Jacksonville, FL and San Antonio, TX.
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Old 10-15-2018, 07:32 AM
 
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For example, I'm thinking of Phoenix which really is more like a big suburb, with sprawl, and a lack of an emphasis on a downtown, as opposed to a core with suburbs, and a specific traffic pattern of people coming in the morning and leaving in the evening in one direction.



Where else is decentralized?





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Not sure why people think Los Angeles fits this. LA is similar to London, Bangkok, Shanghai, Seoul, Tokyo and even New York. There is a definite core with traditional traffic patterns. It is called the Santa Monica Blvd/Wilshire Blvd Corridor. It includes West LA, Westwood, Century City, Beverly Hills, Mid City, West Hollywood, Hollywood, Koreatown, and Downtown. Roughly 10 miles long and 3 miles wide.
The bulk of office type jobs, retail, services, and many other jobs are located on this LA area corridor.
Yes it is stretched out a bit longer, which is similar to how Manhattan is stretched out to several sections. In London, it is stretched out along the Thames. In Tokyo it in many areas from the Palace.
So LA is similar large mega cities where there is little emphasis on a singular Downtown like a SF, Philly, Boston or Chicago but rather a larger mega core with multiple Downtowns making up a large core.
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Old 10-16-2018, 08:33 AM
 
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I would think that cities with a small city proper population core, and a big MSA population, would qualify. That's a great number of cities.

Due to annexation of suburbs in some cities, and city/county mergers, using city proper populations isn't a good indicator. Some city proper boundaries are more than 10 times that of other cities, where the smaller ones in area are in reality much more major cities. You really have to go by population densities and job densities in the core, to determine what's asked about in this thread.
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