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Old 10-24-2018, 03:07 PM
 
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Alright my City Data lovers... I'm soliciting your help in finding our "forever home" and I've decided to turn it into a game of sorts. I've split our criteria into three categories: Necessities (15 points - the things we need and is required), Niceties (10 points - the things that we'd rather have but can live without) and Novelties (1 point - the novel things that will make life a bit better but doesn't really matter to us in the grand scheme).

Necessities (*required - 15 points each):
- 2+ acres of land
- A home large enough for 4 or 5 people priced under 500k
- 15%+ African-American's in school district
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0/45

Niceties (10 points each):
- Within 30-45 mins of a mid-large city center
- Is semi-affluent but relatively affordable
- Has good outdoor recreation opportunities
- Is not in an area prone to natural disasters like 500yr floods, terrible droughts, hurricanes, earthquakes, tornadoes, fires, etc.
- Within 30mins to an airport for major US destinations
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0/50

Novelties (1 point each):
- Nearby upscale shopping
- Has a younger/hip vibe close by
- Is diverse beyond Black/White
- Has a healthy tech scene
- Is near a large(ish) body of water
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0/5

Total
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0/100


So, as an example, let's take the Cleveland area where we live now. A nearby exurb of Solon, OH technically could meet our requirements (Necessities), though by just a hair and opportunities are far and few between. I would give it a 87/100. We would like to explore other options, however.

It's a complex and difficult mix of criteria, I know. Finding an area that's spacious enough for large plots of land, that's close to a medium-big city, that is semi-affluent and affordable, and has a sizable African-American population is hard... especially in the Midwest and West where we have lived.

So far we've got our sights on these potential areas:

- Raleigh/Durham
- Atlanta (Gwinnett County)
- Detroit (closer to Ann Arbor)
- Charlotte
- Dallas (?)
- Nashville

Do you have any ideas? Run it through the above criteria and post your scores. Make sure to include specific districts/areas that meet the requirements (Necessities) with some info about it.

Thanks!
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Old 10-24-2018, 03:37 PM
 
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Alright my City Data lovers... I'm soliciting your help in finding our "forever home" and I've decided to turn it into a game of sorts. I've split our criteria into three categories: Necessities (15 points - the things we need and is required), Niceties (10 points - the things that we'd rather have but can live without) and Novelties (1 point - the novel things that will make life a bit better but doesn't really matter to us in the grand scheme).

Necessities (*required - 15 points each):
- 2+ acres of land
- A home large enough for 4 or 5 people priced under 500k
- 15%+ African-American's in school district
-----------------------------
0/45

Niceties (10 points each):
- Within 30-45 mins of a mid-large city center
- Is semi-affluent but relatively affordable
- Has good outdoor recreation opportunities
- Is not in an area prone to natural disasters like 500yr floods, terrible droughts, hurricanes, earthquakes, tornadoes, fires, etc.
- Within 30mins to an airport for major US destinations
------------------------------
0/50

Novelties (1 point each):
- Nearby upscale shopping
- Has a younger/hip vibe close by
- Is diverse beyond Black/White
- Has a healthy tech scene
- Is near a large(ish) body of water
------------------------------
0/5

Total
------------------------------
0/100


So, as an example, let's take the Cleveland area where we live now. A nearby exurb of Solon, OH technically could meet our requirements (Necessities), though by just a hair and opportunities are far and few between. I would give it a 87/100. We would like to explore other options, however.

It's a complex and difficult mix of criteria, I know. Finding an area that's spacious enough for large plots of land, that's close to a medium-big city, that is semi-affluent and affordable, and has a sizable African-American population is hard... especially in the Midwest and West where we have lived.

So far we've got our sights on these potential areas:

- Raleigh/Durham
- Atlanta (Gwinnett County)
- Detroit (closer to Ann Arbor)
- Charlotte
- Dallas (?)
- Nashville

Do you have any ideas? Run it through the above criteria and post your scores. Make sure to include specific districts/areas that meet the requirements (Necessities) with some info about it.

Thanks!
In terms of the bolded region and area, the Farmington/Farmington Hills area and West Bloomfield in Oakland County would fit most, if not all of the criteria. https://www.farmington.k12.mi.us/Page/1
https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/in...=1&CS=930FE330
Farmington Public School District Historical Race Data - USA.com™
Farmington Public School District Historical Median Household Income by Races Data - USA.com™
Farmington Public School District - USA.com™

https://www.wbsd.org/
https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/in...30&CS=EB7FA120
West Bloomfield School District Historical Race Data - USA.com™
West Bloomfield School District Historical Median Household Income by Races Data - USA.com™
West Bloomfield School District - USA.com™
A lot of professional athletes live in this SD actually.

Both SD's are right next to each other as well.

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Old 10-24-2018, 04:56 PM
 
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In terms of the bolded region and area, the Farmington/Farmington Hills area and West Bloomfield in Oakland County would fit most, if not all of the criteria. https://www.farmington.k12.mi.us/Page/1
https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/in...=1&CS=930FE330
Farmington Public School District Historical Race Data - USA.comô
Farmington Public School District Historical Median Household Income by Races Data - USA.comô
Farmington Public School District - USA.comô

https://www.wbsd.org/
https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/in...30&CS=EB7FA120
West Bloomfield School District Historical Race Data - USA.comô
West Bloomfield School District Historical Median Household Income by Races Data - USA.comô
West Bloomfield School District - USA.comô
A lot of professional athletes live in this SD actually.

Both SD's are right next to each other as well.
Thanks! Anywhere else in the Detroit area that also works?
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Old 10-24-2018, 05:18 PM
 
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Thanks! Anywhere else in the Detroit area that also works?
A district I thought about if you would be alright with parts of it meeting the demographic information is the Plymouth-Canton SD. It is close to both Ann Arbor and Detroit and also gets some pro athletes as residents as well. It is also closer to the airport too.

You also have districts with not as good of a reputation, but are better in terms of a location and would fit the first portion of criteria like the Lincoln Consolidated and Van Buren(Belleville) SD’s.
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Old 10-24-2018, 05:22 PM
 
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"2+ acres of land - A home large enough for 4 or 5 people priced under 500k"

Raleigh is off your list.
Durham stays on.
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Old 10-24-2018, 06:08 PM
 
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Most rural areas in the Northern, Midwestern, and Western United States are overwhelmingly white. A school district of 15% AA is really difficult to find outside of cities and suburbs. The south might be your best bet.
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Old 10-24-2018, 07:41 PM
 
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Most rural areas in the Northern, Midwestern, and Western United States are overwhelmingly white. A school district of 15% AA is really difficult to find outside of cities and suburbs. The south might be your best bet.
Select suburbs and exurbs in those regions are going to be the best bet, unless you are talking about a school district that is an "enlarged city SD" like you see in some states. With the latter type of district, you will have a school district that primarily covers a city, but also some suburban and even rural areas as well.

A district in NY State that comes to mind and that is around the demographic percentage is the Troy City SD in the Albany area, which actually has a tech sector: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tech_Valley . That district has neighborhoods with row houses to suburban style housing outside of Troy city limits. Troy City School District |
https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000033960
https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000039478
https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/in...=1&CS=16C9A38C

So, finding a school district like that may be another thing to consider.

I was also thinking in terms of the Midwest and OH, some Columbus suburban SD's such as Pickerington, Canal Winchester, Gahanna-Jefferson, Westerville and Reynoldsburg are some to look into.

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Old 10-25-2018, 07:18 AM
 
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A district I thought about if you would be alright with parts of it meeting the demographic information is the Plymouth-Canton SD. It is close to both Ann Arbor and Detroit and also gets some pro athletes as residents as well. It is also closer to the airport too.

You also have districts with not as good of a reputation, but are better in terms of a location and would fit the first portion of criteria like the Lincoln Consolidated and Van Buren(Belleville) SD’s.
Information about these SD's...

Plymouth-Canton Community Schools | Home
https://nces.ed.gov/ccd/schoolsearch...rictID=2628560
Plymouth-Canton Community Schools - USA.com™
Plymouth-Canton Community Schools Historical Median Household Income by Races Data - USA.com™
Census Block Group 563700-1 in Wayne County, Michigan
Census Tract 564700 in Wayne County, Michigan
Census Block Group 564100-3 in Wayne County, Michigan
https://www.mischooldata.org/ParentD...rnName=Search:

Home (is located primarily in Washtenaw County, just S of Ypsilanti and in the same county as Ann Arbor)
Lincoln Consolidated School District - USA.com™ (can view info on the map)
Lincoln Consolidated School District Historical Race Data - USA.com™
Lincoln Consolidated School District Historical Median Household Income by Races Data - USA.com™
https://nces.ed.gov/ccd/schoolsearch...rictID=2621570
https://www.mischooldata.org/ParentD...rnName=Search:

https://www.vanburenschools.net/ (primarily in Wayne County, the county Detroit is in, but parts go into Washtenaw County)
Van Buren Public Schools - USA.com™ (again, can view info on map)
Van Buren Public Schools Historical Race Data - USA.com™
Van Buren Public Schools Historical Median Household Income by Races Data - USA.com™
https://nces.ed.gov/ccd/schoolsearch...rictID=2634560
https://www.mischooldata.org/ParentD...rnName=Search:

Again, all 3 are close to Ann Arbor, Detroit and Detroit International Airport.
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Old 10-25-2018, 10:10 AM
 
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"2+ acres of land - A home large enough for 4 or 5 people priced under 500k"

Raleigh is off your list.
Durham stays on.
I agree and according to scoring lands 99 points, just losing the perfect score for not being close to a large body of water, unless Jordan Lake counts.
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Old 10-25-2018, 01:44 PM
 
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I agree and according to scoring lands 99 points, just losing the perfect score for not being close to a large body of water, unless Jordan Lake counts.
So Durham? What are some areas/school districts to look into?
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