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Old 10-26-2018, 04:22 PM
Status: "Destroying False Hope..." (set 18 days ago)
 
Location: Houston for Living/Los Angeles for Work
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DISCLAIMER: THIS THREAD IS NOT TO TALK ABOUT THE POLITICS OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. I do not want to get into to the opinions of illegal immigration here and I especially do not want this thread moved to the "Politics and Other Controversies" forum. This thread is to discuss what would draw undocumented immigrants to particular places and the statistical trends.

That out of the way, here is what we have:

-Over 60% of the nations undocumented immigrants population lives in just 20 metro areas. They are listed below along with the number of undocumented immigrants in each:

New York - 1,150,000
Los Angeles - 1,000,000
Houston - 575,000
Dallas/Fort Worth - 475,000
Miami/Fort Lauderdale - 450,000
Chicago - 425,000
Washington DC - 400,000
Atlanta - 250,000
Riverside, CA - 250,000
Phoenix - 250,000
San Francisco - 240,000
Boston - 180,000
San Diego - 170,000
Las Vegas - 170,000
Philadelphia - 160,000
Seattle - 150,000
Denver - 130,000
San Jose - 120,000
Orlando - 110,000
Austin - 100,000

-Undocumented Immigrants as a concentration of the total population:

Houston - 8.7%
Las Vegas - 8.0%
Los Angeles - 7.5%
Miami/Fort Lauderdale - 7.3%
Dallas/Fort Worth - 6.9%
Washington DC - 6.8%
San Jose - 6.5%
New York - 5.7%
Riverside, CA - 5.6%
Phoenix - 5.5%
San Diego - 5.3%
San Francisco - 5.3%
Austin - 5.0%
Denver - 4.7%
Orlando - 4.6%
Chicago - 4.5%
Atlanta - 4.5%
Seattle - 3.9%
Boston - 3.7%
Philadelphia - 2.6%

-Undocumented Immigrants as a percentage of each metro areas's total immigrant population:

Houston - 37%
Dallas/Fort Worth - 37%
Denver - 37%
Phoenix - 37%
Las Vegas - 35%
Austin - 34%
Atlanta - 33%
Washington DC - 29%
Orlando - 26%
Chicago - 25%
Riverside, CA - 25%
Philadelphia - 24%
Seattle - 23%
Los Angeles - 22%
San Diego - 22%
Boston - 21%
New York - 19%
Miami - 18%
San Francisco - 17%
San Jose - 17%

-Top 5 states by undocumented immigrant population:

California - 3,019,000 of which 70% are from Mexico and 13% are from Central America
Texas - 1,470,000 of which 78% were from Mexico and 12% are from Central America
New York - 850,000 of which 22% are from Mexico and 17% are from South America
Florida - 610,000 of which 28% are from Mexico and 25% are from South America
Illinois - 519,000 of which 72% are from Mexico and 4% are from Central America

-Top 10 counties by undocumented immigrants:

Los Angeles County, CA - 1,060,000 of which 62% are Mexican
Harris County, TX - 376,000 of which 63% are Mexican
Cook County, IL - 325,000 of which 70% are Mexican
Orange County, CA - 270,000 of which 73% are Mexican
Queens County, NY - 232,000 of which 23% are Mexican
Dallas County, TX - 231,000 of which 78% are Mexican
San Diego County, CA - 202,000 of which 79% are Mexican
Maricopa County, AZ - 172,000 of which 85% are Mexican
Kings County, NY - 172,000 of which 22% are Mexican
Riverside County, CA - 161,000 of which 83% are Mexican

Below is some additional data:

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...says-pew-study

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...at-trump-lost/

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/prog...ate-and-county

Lets try to stick to the trends and stay out of the politics.
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Old 10-26-2018, 05:29 PM
 
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Illegals go where there are entry-level jobs, whether in the service, hospitality, or the construction industry.

Last edited by JMT; 10-26-2018 at 08:12 PM.. Reason: Political posts belong in the Politics forum.
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Old 10-26-2018, 05:43 PM
 
Location: New York NY
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What's interesting to me is how few Mexicans, relatively speaking, have landed in NYC. The number, however, has definitely grown in the past generation. But despite their growing presence, I think that when we New Yorkers think of immigrants -- documented or undocumented--we don't think of Mexico or Latin America as much as Asia, the Caribbean, Africa, and even Europe. And it should go without saying that one reason we have fewer Mexican immigrants than Texas or California is simple proximity.
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Old 10-27-2018, 12:54 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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Originally Posted by As Above So Below... View Post
DISCLAIMER: THIS THREAD IS NOT TO TALK ABOUT THE POLITICS OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. I do not want to get into to the opinions of illegal immigration here and I especially do not want this thread moved to the "Politics and Other Controversies" forum. This thread is to discuss what would draw undocumented immigrants to particular places and the statistical trends.

That out of the way, here is what we have:

-Over 60% of the nations undocumented immigrants population lives in just 20 metro areas. They are listed below along with the number of undocumented immigrants in each:

New York - 1,150,000
Los Angeles - 1,000,000
Houston - 575,000
Dallas/Fort Worth - 475,000
Miami/Fort Lauderdale - 450,000
Chicago - 425,000
Washington DC - 400,000
Atlanta - 250,000
Riverside, CA - 250,000
Phoenix - 250,000
San Francisco - 240,000
Boston - 180,000
San Diego - 170,000
Las Vegas - 170,000
Philadelphia - 160,000
Seattle - 150,000
Denver - 130,000
San Jose - 120,000
Orlando - 110,000
Austin - 100,000

-Undocumented Immigrants as a concentration of the total population:

Houston - 8.7%
Las Vegas - 8.0%
Los Angeles - 7.5%
Miami/Fort Lauderdale - 7.3%
Dallas/Fort Worth - 6.9%
Washington DC - 6.8%
San Jose - 6.5%
New York - 5.7%
Riverside, CA - 5.6%
Phoenix - 5.5%
San Diego - 5.3%
San Francisco - 5.3%
Austin - 5.0%
Denver - 4.7%
Orlando - 4.6%
Chicago - 4.5%
Atlanta - 4.5%
Seattle - 3.9%
Boston - 3.7%
Philadelphia - 2.6%

-Undocumented Immigrants as a percentage of each metro areas's total immigrant population:

Houston - 37%
Dallas/Fort Worth - 37%
Denver - 37%
Phoenix - 37%
Las Vegas - 35%
Austin - 34%
Atlanta - 33%
Washington DC - 29%
Orlando - 26%
Chicago - 25%
Riverside, CA - 25%
Philadelphia - 24%
Seattle - 23%
Los Angeles - 22%
San Diego - 22%
Boston - 21%
New York - 19%
Miami - 18%
San Francisco - 17%
San Jose - 17%

-Top 5 states by undocumented immigrant population:

California - 3,019,000 of which 70% are from Mexico and 13% are from Central America
Texas - 1,470,000 of which 78% were from Mexico and 12% are from Central America
New York - 850,000 of which 22% are from Mexico and 17% are from South America
Florida - 610,000 of which 28% are from Mexico and 25% are from South America
Illinois - 519,000 of which 72% are from Mexico and 4% are from Central America

-Top 10 counties by undocumented immigrants:

Los Angeles County, CA - 1,060,000 of which 62% are Mexican
Harris County, TX - 376,000 of which 63% are Mexican
Cook County, IL - 325,000 of which 70% are Mexican
Orange County, CA - 270,000 of which 73% are Mexican
Queens County, NY - 232,000 of which 23% are Mexican
Dallas County, TX - 231,000 of which 78% are Mexican
San Diego County, CA - 202,000 of which 79% are Mexican
Maricopa County, AZ - 172,000 of which 85% are Mexican
Kings County, NY - 172,000 of which 22% are Mexican
Riverside County, CA - 161,000 of which 83% are Mexican

Below is some additional data:

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...says-pew-study

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...at-trump-lost/

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/prog...ate-and-county

Lets try to stick to the trends and stay out of the politics.
How does LA county on its own have more undocumented immigrants than LA and OC combined?

I reckon there's even more here based off of the people I know, doesn't seem to include the asian communities not all of them are legal either. I figure there's close to 12 million people actually living in LA County more than 43 states, it's insane.
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Old 10-27-2018, 07:46 AM
 
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How does LA county on its own have more undocumented immigrants than LA and OC combined?

I reckon there's even more here based off of the people I know, doesn't seem to include the asian communities not all of them are legal either. I figure there's close to 12 million people actually living in LA County more than 43 states, it's insane.
That's why undocumented immigrants need to be counted in the census.
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Old 10-27-2018, 08:04 AM
 
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That's why undocumented immigrants need to be counted in the census.
Until now, they could be counted in the census. There wasn't a citizenship question in the forms people would fill out and return.
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Old 10-27-2018, 09:10 AM
Status: "Destroying False Hope..." (set 18 days ago)
 
Location: Houston for Living/Los Angeles for Work
1,176 posts, read 400,886 times
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Originally Posted by sean1the1 View Post
How does LA county on its own have more undocumented immigrants than LA and OC combined?

I reckon there's even more here based off of the people I know, doesn't seem to include the asian communities not all of them are legal either. I figure there's close to 12 million people actually living in LA County more than 43 states, it's insane.
The number includes all illegal immigrants including Asians, however I did notice that discrepancy.

There have been some reversals. More undocumented Mexicans are actually returning home as opposed to coming here. Central Americans and Asian are the faster growing groups now.

Another interesting thing is that California is not the state receiving the highest number of undocumented immigrants anymore. They are a close 2nd to Texas for whatever reason.
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Old 10-27-2018, 08:36 PM
 
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What's interesting to me is how few Mexicans, relatively speaking, have landed in NYC. The number, however, has definitely grown in the past generation. But despite their growing presence, I think that when we New Yorkers think of immigrants -- documented or undocumented--we don't think of Mexico or Latin America as much as Asia, the Caribbean, Africa, and even Europe. And it should go without saying that one reason we have fewer Mexican immigrants than Texas or California is simple proximity.
There's a very large Mexican presence in NYC and I think they've become part of NYC's immigrant identity.

In Brooklyn they're pretty much all over Southern Brooklyn, plus Bushwick in North Brooklyn is a large enclave of theirs, with tons of Mexican people living there with the businesses to go along with it.
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Old 10-27-2018, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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I don't know what's to discuss here really in terms of geography..they're mostly drawn to mega cities that have large service industries i.e. a high demand for cheap, low-skill labor. Everything else is going to be about the politics of it.
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