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View Poll Results: Which offers a better quality of life?
The US 102 45.74%
Canada 100 44.84%
It's a tie 21 9.42%
Voters: 223. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-21-2019, 10:49 AM
 
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I haven't seen anyone posing that the poor in the US don't get help. In fact so many of you do, the article from Forbes says you are at a tipping point. Having more people reliant on government takes away points on QOL for a country. Social programs are not just handouts.
I think the American poor get too much help and b/c of that, it enables them to stay poor. People don't want to have to fend for themselves b/c they know the govt will give them handouts.


Make people fend for themselves and I guarantee they'll find a way to make it.
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Old 02-21-2019, 10:50 AM
 
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Growing up in the small Southern town I had only one Asian friend.There just were not many at all.His name was Saikon(sure I misspelled that).He was Japanese and didnt have many friends as his English was horrible but we were close until he moved away a year later in 5th grade.
Ive always been patient and I tried harder than many of the other students to try and understand him so that would explain that I guess

Over the years I now live in a diverse city,I have many friends from all ethnicity and races. In fact the many of my friends are South Asian(India/Bengali).My best friends are South Asian,African American,Algerian,French.
People I dont just "know" but I consider like brothers as do they towards me as well.

It was'nt till I went to San Francisco for the first time as a 20 year old did I see Asians not in those stereotypical roles.As you stated, I saw Asian police and trash men,mechanics etc.I was actually bewildered but in humanized a race I had very little interaction with.
Also considering this wasnt too long after Rodney King that Korean American relations were at it all time low as they were seen as predatory in the way they did business in black communities.
People forget how bad that was .Korean store owners and their families were being attacked and targeted across the U.S.

I remember Korean store owners started getting wise and living in the communities and getting to know there customers by being more friendly.
I see this even today when i go to some of those areas how they really get involved with the community.
Iabout 8 years ago when i lived in the hood flipping house there was a small Korean owned store where the father of a family owned store was shot and killed brutally.The community was outraged and on the news there gave such an outpouring of support.
People were really outraged and demanded justice.This community really loved the store owner as he always looked out for some of the poorer residents that could not always pay.
There was one guy who was the most "thuggish" hard core black guy you would ever see basically said in the interview that they would find whoever did that and they would "get what they deserved".

The US gets a perceived notion that its more racist due to all the Incidents like Rodney King and now all the current police stuff but it happens all over the Western world,Especially Canada.
Im not picking on Canada as I said i go there quite often and love it BUT Canadians often have there head in the sand when it comes to racial inequality.Much like how Europe is.
I will always contend that America assimilates people better in society than any other Western Country in the world
I agree with you.Limitations of race are easier to overcome in the U.S. and for me that makes all the difference in what kind of quality of life I can live
I love the diversity of America and would have a real problem living in a country that wasn't diverse. (I'm white).
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Old 02-21-2019, 10:50 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Thanks for engaging and...point conceded! The vast majority of Canadians feel colder than Boston in the winter - many Canadians MUCH colder than Boston.

And to answer your question...YES, DEFINITELY. Canadian snowbirds go to Victoria to golf in the winter. But most significantly, it is Canada's premier retirement community. Surprisingly enough, many AMERICANS retire in Victoria, too!
Really? As an avid golfer that doesnít sound too enjoyable. I have family in Seattle, and the Pacific Northwest isnít exactly nice in the winter. Yes, itís milder than many areas, but itís hardly a winter escape.
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Old 02-21-2019, 11:18 AM
 
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Don't you guys wait a very long time to see specialists in Canada?


My stepson (who is Canadian, lives with his mother) had to wait 9 MONTHS to get into see an endocrinologist. That seems crazy to me.


You could get an appt tomorrow in the US for that.
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Old 02-21-2019, 11:19 AM
 
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Really? As an avid golfer that doesn’t sound too enjoyable. I have family in Seattle, and the Pacific Northwest isn’t exactly nice in the winter. Yes, it’s milder than many areas, but it’s hardly a winter escape.
Well, first of all, you're from San Diego so you don't count. San Diego is incredibly mild and weather is relative.

You hit it on the nail. Many Americans (and Canadians) have enjoyed rounds of golf in Victoria, Canada in winter. That all depends on where they're from. It's all relative AND you're from San Diego. The FACT remains that people from the Midwest (and especially the Upper Midwest!) would be golfing in Victoria in summer clothing this time of year. They'd LOVE it! San Diego visitors to Victoria - not so much.

By the way, people from the Southern California area think Dallas winters are very cold whereas Dallas is generally considered to have very mild winters by most people nationwide. Someone from Hawaii or the Caribbean Islands would be in shock (from the cold) getting off the plane this time of year in San Diego. So again - it's all relative.

Second - Victoria is a little bit milder (overall winter) than Seattle - albeit not all that much.

Third - Victoria is far less dreary/rainy and quite a bit sunnier than Seattle during the winter. It's located in what's called a 'rain-shadow'. So, I promise you, its winters are the most pleasant in all of the Pacific Northwest. I agree it's still fundamentally Pacific Northwest - but it's the region's best winter-time representative, that's for sure!

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Old 02-21-2019, 11:43 AM
 
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Really? As an avid golfer that doesnít sound too enjoyable. I have family in Seattle, and the Pacific Northwest isnít exactly nice in the winter. Yes, itís milder than many areas, but itís hardly a winter escape.
Here's a link that describes the year-round golf in Victoria, Canada

https://www.oilfieldpulse.com/victor...f-destination/
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Old 02-21-2019, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Here's a link that describes the year-round golf in Victoria, Canada

https://www.oilfieldpulse.com/victor...f-destination/
Thanks, that's interesting, but it doesn't prove anything about Victoria, BC vs Dallas. I'm sorry, but I do not believe that winters in Victoria, BC are as mild or even close to as mild as Dallas winters, not based on my own research, some of which I linked to.

I mean, it looks like a nice place but in the overall scheme of Canada, it's a tiny portion of Canada. I'm sure that Canada has some pluses - I'm positive of it, in fact. I'm not trying to diss Canada. I am just saying it's winters are not as mild as those of Dallas. Nor are it's summers as hot so there's that.
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Old 02-21-2019, 05:06 PM
 
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Thanks, that's interesting, but it doesn't prove anything about Victoria, BC vs Dallas. I'm sorry, but I do not believe that winters in Victoria, BC are as mild or even close to as mild as Dallas winters, not based on my own research, some of which I linked to.

I mean, it looks like a nice place but in the overall scheme of Canada, it's a tiny portion of Canada. I'm sure that Canada has some pluses - I'm positive of it, in fact. I'm not trying to diss Canada. I am just saying it's winters are not as mild as those of Dallas. Nor are it's summers as hot so there's that.
OH, I agree the winters in Victoria, Canada are not as warm as they are in Dallas, Texas (overall) - hence, the very specific distinction with specific suburbs. The summers are MOST DEFINITELY hotter in Dallas, Texas!

However - the undisputed fact remains that there are some suburbs of the Greater Victoria, Canada region that historically enjoy warmer winters (by definition) than some suburbs of the Dallas-Ft. Worth, Metroplex. Now that's just a fact no matter how one might choose to spin it. To say otherwise would be to question the NOAA based links as a fraud. A warmer average temperature is a warmer average temperature.

I'm curious. How, exactly, do YOU define warmer (milder)? I'm starting to think that you find this whole thing to be so unbelievable that you just can't come to grips with the reality of the situation?

You're right that Canada, on the whole, is a very cold country.
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Old 02-21-2019, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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OH, I agree the winters in Victoria, Canada are not as warm as they are in Dallas, Texas (overall) - hence, the very specific distinction with specific suburbs. The summers are MOST DEFINITELY hotter in Dallas, Texas!

However - the undisputed fact remains that there are some suburbs of the Greater Victoria, Canada region that historically enjoy warmer winters (by definition) than some suburbs of the Dallas-Ft. Worth, Metroplex. Now that's just a fact no matter how one might choose to spin it. To say otherwise would be to question the NOAA based links as a fraud. A warmer average temperature is a warmer average temperature.

I'm curious. How, exactly, do YOU define warmer (milder)? I'm starting to think that you find this whole thing to be so unbelievable that you just can't come to grips with the reality of the situation?

You're right that Canada, on the whole, is a very cold country.
Well, you didn't provide links that proved or disproved what you're asserting.

That's my point.

I don't think it's "so unbelievable that I just can't come to grips with the reality of the situation." I'm simply asking you to provide links that support your assertions.
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Old 02-21-2019, 05:20 PM
 
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Well, you didn't provide links that proved or disproved what you're asserting.

That's my point.

I don't think it's "so unbelievable that I just can't come to grips with the reality of the situation." I'm simply asking you to provide links that support your assertions.
I provided the links. Didn't you see them? You might have only seen the golf thing, but I provided the links in an earlier email (not the golf course link). NO WONDER you were talking that way. Check my other, earlier message with the actual links and temperatures.
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